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Old 10-09-2015, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by e6bpilot
That's very true. A b1tching pilot is a happy pilot. I really don't think it is a mil vs regional thing, though. Believe me, I have had plenty of 18 hour plus days flying for uncle with little or no sleep on the front or back end and all I ever got in compensation was more of the same. Lets just say that we all struggled in our own way to get here. I have a lot of respect for the commuter and corporate bubbas that I fly with and value their experience, but to say that the military route was the easy route is not accurate at all.
I love to complain as much as the next guy, but I know I have it pretty danged good. I guarantee you that there is a Delta 747 captain flying his one leg this month that is b1ching up a storm that he got called on reserve off the golf course. Work, work work.
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Old 10-09-2015, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
Different flavor of ice cream for everyone and that's just fine. I much prefer long-haul to more interesting glamourous destinations, but to each their own.
Whack,

I hear Delta is hiring -- you might be a good fit over there with your taste for long-haul flying. Don't think you're going to see true long-haul at SWA for many years to come.

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Old 10-10-2015, 04:18 AM
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Whack,

I hear Delta is hiring -- you might be a good fit over there with your taste for long-haul flying. Don't think you're going to see true long-haul at SWA for many years to come.

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Where is the "like" button.

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Old 10-10-2015, 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
Don't forget the fact that everyday life on the line is much faster paced and tiring at SWA. You work your tail off on quicker turns, shorter legs and more of them then at the legacies. Granted it's more efficient but having seen both sides of the spectrum from regional to long haul, SWA flying is MUCH more like regional airline flying with regards to the pace and flavor of everyday life on the line. Something I don't think canidates consider.

This is also (one of) the problem(s) I have with the TA. The compensation calculator they used assumed 108 TFP per month as the average. The problem is that very few lines are built at 108+ so it requires that a pilot pick up throughout the year to achieve those numbers. I don't want to pick up extra! We fly too much already.

Back at brand X in the 90s we had an 85 hour cap. That equates to 100 TFP right? Well there you go. I don't want to go over 100 TFP! And if I do, I'd love to be able to bank the extra and use it to drop a trip the next month!

Do you live to work? Or do you work to live? Give me my time at home. Keep the pay.
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Old 10-10-2015, 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Thunder1
Whack,

I hear Delta is hiring -- you might be a good fit over there with your taste for long-haul flying. Don't think you're going to see true long-haul at SWA for many years to come.

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What and not be around to raise your blood pressure every once in a while? No way. You're stuck with me for the foreseeable future anyway.
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Old 10-10-2015, 08:08 AM
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What and not be around to raise your blood pressure every once in a while? No way. You're stuck with me for the foreseeable future anyway.
Maybe you had your reasons and I don't know your story, but you did know that SWA didn't have ANY long haul flights and you knew what their route map looked like when you applied didn't you??? Did you apply to UA, AA, DL, US before you applied to SWA?
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Old 10-10-2015, 08:31 AM
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Maybe you had your reasons and I don't know your story, but you did know that SWA didn't have ANY long haul flights and you knew what their route map looked like when you applied didn't you??? Did you apply to UA, AA, DL, US before you applied to SWA?
You just had to go and push his button, didn't you?
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Old 10-10-2015, 10:18 AM
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Maybe you had your reasons and I don't know your story, but you did know that SWA didn't have ANY long haul flights and you knew what their route map looked like when you applied didn't you??? Did you apply to UA, AA, DL, US before you applied to SWA?
Whack came from Air Tran and his difference of opinion is actually a somewhat refreshing anti-dote to all the kool aid the company gives to street hires.

This airline is not what it was and will probably never be again. As the saying goes, **** flows downhill. The powers that be just gave air tran a taste of what they have been shoveling for the 5 years ive been here.

Its still a good paying job, but it is a ball busting, tiring, multiple leg job with short overnights in antiquated equipment. The fact that the union used 108 tfp (93.99 credit per month) as an average shows you how much work this pilot group does as compared to our peers.

Not everyone can work for Dal, Ual or American; especially pilots acquired in a merger with any prior seniority.
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Old 10-10-2015, 10:18 AM
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You just had to go and push his button, didn't you?
Lmfao! So tempting but I'll just refrain. As to the question, let's just say I never applied to SWA.......think about it.
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Old 10-10-2015, 12:13 PM
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Lmfao! So tempting but I'll just refrain. As to the question, let's just say I never applied to SWA.......think about it.
And AirTran had long haul flights to glamorous destinations?
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