SWA to open ATL Base
01-11-2013, 03:50 PM
#141
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Why do you think I was stating average fleet ages? Why would the age of AT's fleet have anything to do with SWA replacement aircraft? I was trying to point out that both airlines would use some of those deliveries as replacement airframes. You state they are all growth airframes. If any of those deliveries were to take place after 2017 I will submit those airframes were replacement airframes for 717's leaving.
01-12-2013, 07:44 AM
#142
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No one is going to be able to change any ones mind here. The more you try and debate the more wound up people will be.
The AT board sold their company to SWA. Both pilot groups wanted the best for themselves. Fairness was never a question. Even if AT got DOH there would have been just as much angst because it wasn't relative seniority. If both sides gone to arbitration and it didn't come out to relative seniority some AT pilots would be all over this and other boards blaming SWA and SWAPA for not playing fair before hand. The same would have happened with SWA pilots with different outcomes. Since SWA bought AT that put SWA at an advantage. So the outcome came out as an apparent advantage for SWA pilots but that is far from the case. As with the AT pilots career potential you can easily "what if" the SWA pilots career potential with this agreement.
We have guys like "Whackmaster" over on the SWA side that are livid with this agreement. This medium allows to get on their soap box and scream that they have been disenfranchised from the top of their lungs. Twenty years ago we wouldn't be any of the wiser of a few radical discontents. Except, unfortunately, when you worked with them.
So far the transitions that have taken place have not affected anything I have heard of. The company will be careful to address those that are a bit too over the top on those things things that can affect customer service. SWA is a fantastic company to work for. They treat their employees like family. They only request the same mutual respect.
The AT board sold their company to SWA. Both pilot groups wanted the best for themselves. Fairness was never a question. Even if AT got DOH there would have been just as much angst because it wasn't relative seniority. If both sides gone to arbitration and it didn't come out to relative seniority some AT pilots would be all over this and other boards blaming SWA and SWAPA for not playing fair before hand. The same would have happened with SWA pilots with different outcomes. Since SWA bought AT that put SWA at an advantage. So the outcome came out as an apparent advantage for SWA pilots but that is far from the case. As with the AT pilots career potential you can easily "what if" the SWA pilots career potential with this agreement.
We have guys like "Whackmaster" over on the SWA side that are livid with this agreement. This medium allows to get on their soap box and scream that they have been disenfranchised from the top of their lungs. Twenty years ago we wouldn't be any of the wiser of a few radical discontents. Except, unfortunately, when you worked with them.
So far the transitions that have taken place have not affected anything I have heard of. The company will be careful to address those that are a bit too over the top on those things things that can affect customer service. SWA is a fantastic company to work for. They treat their employees like family. They only request the same mutual respect.
01-13-2013, 10:08 AM
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01-13-2013, 10:10 AM
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01-13-2013, 03:10 PM
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I thought he was angry at the pilots about the SLI, and something SWA did to him personally was "unfamily" like.
I see now that he feels SWA is responsible for SLI2 and it appears that is personal to him.
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