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Old 12-02-2011, 08:10 PM
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I did a google search and found the following for Jetblue A321:

JetBlue’s A321s will be powered by IAE engines, as are their classic A320s. First deliveries will occur in 2013.
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doesn't matter if it's a pig flying west coast to hawaii...there's no mountains between that route
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Originally Posted by GizmoNC
I did a google search and found the following for Jetblue A321:

JetBlue’s A321s will be powered by IAE engines, as are their classic A320s. First deliveries will occur in 2013.
Cool link that depicts A321 Range: http://www.airbus.com/aircraftfamili...1/performance/

JetBlue Airways Corp. (Nasdaq: JBLU) announced a network-driven revision and extension of its A320 delivery schedule, including:
A new order for 40 A320neo aircraft, offering up to 15 percent in fuel savings and increased range. Of the 52 A320 positions remaining on the current order book, 30 will be converted to A321s, powered by IAE engines, allowing greater network flexibility. A320 family deliveries starting in 2013 will come with winglets, and JetBlue will be a launch customer of retrofit winglets on the existing A320 fleet, in partnership with Airbus.

I suspect the 321s will be used for the high yield New York traffic. The NEOS will have 15% more range. All aircraft wii have winglets, retrofit or factory direct. Plenty of range for Transcons for the NEOs in the winter, not sure about Hawaii, but I suspect more Central and Latin America in the future.
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Old 12-03-2011, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 4th Level
We've been doing it for years already. I did BDL-LAS recently blocked at 5:50.
Who is we? Just wondering.

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Old 12-04-2011, 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by R57 relay
Have you flown a A321? I have and it is a pig in climb performance, but at US it beats the pants off the 320 for range performance.

No idea what a 737 can do, and have No interest in finding out.

When did jetBlue get A321s?
The -800 beats the 320 and the 321 in that department; runway performance too.
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Old 12-04-2011, 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
The A321 is a pig with a much shorter range payload then the 737-800. It is quite a bit worse then the A320 and Jet Blue has had big problems in the winter with fuel stops going East.
The A320 is more then capable of doing BOS-SEA. NWA used to do it. Also, DAL has used the A320 to do JFK-SAN unrestricted with no problems. The A321 has greater range then the A320, & I suspect that range will improve with the shark style winglets.
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Originally Posted by johnso29
The A320 is more then capable of doing BOS-SEA. NWA used to do it. Also, DAL has used the A320 to do JFK-SAN unrestricted with no problems. The A321 has greater range then the A320, & I suspect that range will improve with the shark style winglets.
JetBlue has had numerous well documented problems making the non stops in the winter. It got so bad one winter that USA Today wrote a article about it. There are options to increase range including different tankage. Not all A320's are the same.. The A321 is listed as having 200 miles less range then the A320 but in practice if fully loaded loses even more distance. A google search will bring up several articles.
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Originally Posted by windrider
doesn't matter if it's a pig flying west coast to hawaii...there's no mountains between that route
However you have a lack of enroute alternates and normally have to carry extra fuel to meet driftdown requirements. Something you don't have on most routes. HNL to LAX is one of the longest no divert routes in the world.
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
JetBlue has had numerous well documented problems making the non stops in the winter. It got so bad one winter that USA Today wrote a article about it. There are options to increase range including different tankage. Not all A320's are the same.. The A321 is listed as having 200 miles less range then the A320 but in practice if fully loaded loses even more distance. A google search will bring up several articles.
I know JB had problems in the past. I'm just telling you that NWA/ DAL has successfully operated the A320 transcon while fully loaded. JFK-SAN & BOS-SEA are two examples. DAL 320's have the CFM engines. I believe JB has RR.
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Originally Posted by johnso29
I know JB had problems in the past. I'm just telling you that NWA/ DAL has successfully operated the A320 transcon while fully loaded. JFK-SAN & BOS-SEA are two examples. DAL 320's have the CFM engines. I believe JB has RR.
Don't know about JFK-SAN (is that a new route), but I have done BOS-SEA and it was problematic part of the year. We occasionaly had to stop for fuel. Heck, I have even stopped for fuel DTW-SAN twice...
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