jc73drvr

From the AT guys I know, they said that was not the case at all. The angered outcry was because ALPA MEC turned it down without letting it go to vote.
Didn't they want to recall some union guys because of that?

I am not quite sure about the AT deliveries we got, have not heard anything about it, but seriously, I mean really seriously, soon they will ALL be the same paint scheme, and what difference does it make right now? If you are an AT pilot now, It aint hurting you and it aint helping me. In less than 18 months you will most likely be senior to me, so quit your complaining . It is likely I may fly as an F/O for many guys from AT in the future. Stop talking about how bad you guys are getting it, move on. Try being positive and optimistic for a change, you might like the way it feels.

And with that being said I will hold no grudge against anyone, and move on. How about you?

80ktsClamp

It was my understanding the recall came after the second and worse "deal" came out. I'm an outside party to this.

I know for a fact you have a number of new AirTran 737-700s flying around system in the WN scheme flown by WN pilots, not AirTran. They were delivered over the past few months. They carry the -7BD or -76N on the registration certificate vs. 7H4. WN changed the tail numbers to be WN tail numbers.

shoelu

I have never understood this "angered outcry" spiel. If you let it go to a vote 1700 no votes speak volumes more than 7.

As far as the deliveries to SWA, that was a very smart business decision. It makes absolutely no sense to take delivery of an aircraft in one livery only to turn around and repaint it before the original paint is dry. AirTran is a wholly owned subsidiary of SWA as of May 2011, so technically those deliveries belong to Texas Company LLC Sub. It was a smart business decision that will add to the profit sharing checks of SWA employees INCLUDING the ones that will be coming here very soon from the AirTran side.

USN C9B

My lack of optimism of support from SWAPA is based on their SLI proposals and rhetoric not ALPAs. ALPA is useless in this deal. It is apparant that SWAPA leadership has little, if any, respect for AT pilots. If SC could screw us more, I believe he would.

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jc73drvr

Keep in mind it is SWAPA that represented WN pilots, It was ALPA that represented FL pilots. Each union must represent their respective pilot group with those interests in mind. That is what unions are supposed to do.
However, very soon FL pilots will be WN pilots, represented by SWAPA and they will be represented as such, No Different. That is the reality.

Whether or not people choose to believe this, is their own decision.

USN C9B

I hope you are correct. I really do. As with most things, I'll believe it when I see it.

It would also help if current SWA pilots let their SWAPA reps know that a continued B scale is not acceptable...

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C17MooseDriver

What's your point? All the AirTran 737 will be painted with WN colors soon. Why should SWA management have deliveries painted AT colors only to be repainted.

You're just trying to stir the pot.

80ktsClamp

My point is they are being flown by WN pilots and not FL pilots.

1Seat 1Engine

My understanding is the recall got started before the "come to Herb" meeting.

And really, what's the point. They're all going to get repainted. SWA paid for'em and can paint them any color the company wants.

80ktsClamp

You're totally missing the point. The aircraft were growth aircraft for FL pilots (think career progression, more upgrades and all that good stuff)... WN instead put them on the WN pilots side as replacement aircraft.


I know for a fact aircraft N555LV and N556WN are -7BD's, which are AirTran deliveries.