AIP2 approved by SWAPA BOD and ATN MEC
09-28-2011, 10:53 AM
#81
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Not relevant. The reasoning 'tsquare' used was "resultant downgrades and furloughs for the ATI (only) guys" = pariah.
The integration resulted in almost exclusively TWA pilots being furloughed and downgraded (a couple nAAtives were furloughed).
All things considered, what the AA pilots did to the TWA pilots is much better than what Southwest has done to ANY pilot group they've acquired.
The integration resulted in almost exclusively TWA pilots being furloughed and downgraded (a couple nAAtives were furloughed).
All things considered, what the AA pilots did to the TWA pilots is much better than what Southwest has done to ANY pilot group they've acquired.
09-28-2011, 10:58 AM
#83
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Please . . .
'Southwest Airlines Company' has acquired 4 carriers:
A pariah? Hah! If SWAPA and their pilots aren't already a pariah now after stapling or refusing to even integrate 1,000's of pilots employed with airlines their company voluntarily acquired, what makes you think they will be a pariah now after a couple thousand more pilots get 'welcomed' to Southwest?
Are the AA pilots pariahs b/c of the way they treated the TWA pilots?
'Southwest Airlines Company' has acquired 4 carriers:
- Muse Air
- Morris Air
- ATA
- AirTran
A pariah? Hah! If SWAPA and their pilots aren't already a pariah now after stapling or refusing to even integrate 1,000's of pilots employed with airlines their company voluntarily acquired, what makes you think they will be a pariah now after a couple thousand more pilots get 'welcomed' to Southwest?
Are the AA pilots pariahs b/c of the way they treated the TWA pilots?
As far as AA and the treatment of TWA, I do not think they will be able to pull that off again in the event their health recovers to the point they are able to buy/merge with another carrier. Fool me once...
09-28-2011, 11:07 AM
#84
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What part are you not getting. If this passes there will be no arbitrated list. The agreement that you keep referring to is the process agreement I can only assume, and that document had a time frame for a negotiated settlement which is where we currently are. If you feel there shouldn't have been a portion of time set aside for negotiations, you should have spoken to your Reps and told them so. Oh wait a minute, you don't work for either group that is being represented in this case so that opinion has little relevance to the parties involved in this matter. The agreement has in fact been followed. All parties involved will get a vote on this proposal in compliance with agreed language of the process agreement.
09-28-2011, 11:13 AM
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I guess the part I'm not getting is what happens if it doesn't pass and there is no negotiated settlement.......
09-28-2011, 11:23 AM
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Why don't you hold on until November and we can all see how it plays out in real life instead of endless speculation about fictitious misdeeds that haven't occurred yet.
09-28-2011, 11:38 AM
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09-28-2011, 04:05 PM
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