AirTran MEC Rejects SLI proposal
09-04-2011, 07:22 AM
#551
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Not recently, but it was discussed early on. No one took it seriously excpet the extreme element. I am certain there is no extreme element at AT.
BTW TS, what I found appalling was your comparison of Gary Kelly to Icahn. I let it go at the time. Too many TWA guys said all that needed to be said.
BTW TS, what I found appalling was your comparison of Gary Kelly to Icahn. I let it go at the time. Too many TWA guys said all that needed to be said.
09-04-2011, 07:53 AM
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09-04-2011, 07:53 AM
#553
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unrealistic and you and everyone else knows it. you wont find a replacement job at this income level so you are stuck with us. people will behave enough to not get fired but the 'luv' CULTure will never be embraced when 1/4 of the total employees were so deliberately smacked down. cant be said enough you have done it to yourselves no one else to blame.
09-04-2011, 08:02 AM
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You might very well be right. But the question then becomes, after 9 or 10 years with no upgrade, because of "the deal" will they still be saying that? Maybe they will.
09-04-2011, 08:09 AM
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I doubt the arbitrators will.
09-04-2011, 08:17 AM
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"Hey, your place ain't so bad afterall..."
09-04-2011, 08:21 AM
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09-04-2011, 08:34 AM
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Really ?
They're proposing a downgrade of 40% of our Captains. If you think they'll be receiving a "$5000 a month pay raise" you're delusional. It's a pay cut.
The deal is; 'take it or you'll be on the street two years after Arbitration'.
SWA and SWAPA working hand in hand. SWAPA protests binding Arbitration, and SWA parts out AirTran to prevent a USAir situation.
Nice.
09-04-2011, 08:38 AM
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Really ?
They're proposing a downgrade of 40% of our Captains. If you think they'll be receiving a "$5000 a month pay raise" you're delusional. It's a pay cut.
The deal is; 'take it or you'll be on the street two years after Arbitration'.
SWA and SWAPA working hand in hand. SWAPA protests binding Arbitration, and SWA parts out AirTran to prevent a USAir situation.
Nice.
They're proposing a downgrade of 40% of our Captains. If you think they'll be receiving a "$5000 a month pay raise" you're delusional. It's a pay cut.
The deal is; 'take it or you'll be on the street two years after Arbitration'.
SWA and SWAPA working hand in hand. SWAPA protests binding Arbitration, and SWA parts out AirTran to prevent a USAir situation.
Nice.
09-04-2011, 08:46 AM
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Probation or not, don't care. I've been thru 5 others.
Yep, we've got our 2%ers. Every airline does. The deal is going to be completed now so it doesn't matter what those guys say.
I don't know Gary Kelly, never had the pleasure. I only know that both he and Herb get good press. Probably deserved. That said, I can tell you without hesitation that the full court press was put on a couple days ago by management with backup from Herb and Colleen. Our flight admin is scared ****less.
Discussion about my seniority status (top 15%) and where it should be are no longer pertinent. What's done is done. Looks like I'll land around 45% if I'm lucky. Everybody feel better now?
If this had gone to arbitration, I would likely land about top 30% depending on how plug and pull was implemented. But, hey, I'm getting the SW CBA right? Wrong. We stay on our CBA for ????? no one knows. That part hasn't change since day 1.
No longer pertinent because management stated they weren't going to let YOUR group turn this into another US Air. Therefore, we could take the deal or prepare to be separated.
One of your MC guys tried that Morris Air argument on me (chance encounter.) "See how great everything worked out for them!" Let's see, small growing Southwest vs. mature Southwest. Apples and oranges.
There, that's all I've got. Flame away.
Yep, we've got our 2%ers. Every airline does. The deal is going to be completed now so it doesn't matter what those guys say.
I don't know Gary Kelly, never had the pleasure. I only know that both he and Herb get good press. Probably deserved. That said, I can tell you without hesitation that the full court press was put on a couple days ago by management with backup from Herb and Colleen. Our flight admin is scared ****less.
Discussion about my seniority status (top 15%) and where it should be are no longer pertinent. What's done is done. Looks like I'll land around 45% if I'm lucky. Everybody feel better now?
If this had gone to arbitration, I would likely land about top 30% depending on how plug and pull was implemented. But, hey, I'm getting the SW CBA right? Wrong. We stay on our CBA for ????? no one knows. That part hasn't change since day 1.
No longer pertinent because management stated they weren't going to let YOUR group turn this into another US Air. Therefore, we could take the deal or prepare to be separated.
One of your MC guys tried that Morris Air argument on me (chance encounter.) "See how great everything worked out for them!" Let's see, small growing Southwest vs. mature Southwest. Apples and oranges.
There, that's all I've got. Flame away.
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