e6bpilot

I actually don't totally disagree with you. They should fly more. That being said, I think I would rather have someone right now who is completely up to speed on what is going on and can just slide into that role. Glad it isn't going uncontested.
The base reps is where you really get your yang for their yin. Those guys should be 100 be holding the senior BOD members accountable and should be holding their feet to the fire. I agree that it is a little too chummy right now as evidenced by all the recent votes.

Liberty

You’re one of the brightest guys on here and I get a lot from your take on things…. So I’ll just overlook these silly statements and forget that you made them.

hoover

they already are operating at the margins and the union hasn't done anything about it
3x pay for xmas- yeah that was ok
Uniform allowance shenanigans- still cant get a response from any rep or NC on this one
falling behind on implementation- hey guys they're trying
making us use sick time- strongly worded emails
time to start using that due money to protect the CBA. Isnt that why they took the dues on the bonus without a vote by membership?

Hobbit64

That's MY Line!

REF 5

The regular plan was negotiated away. That means both agreed to it. Of course the company will try to get rid of it in section 6 negotiations. Again, that’s business. If their membership thought it’s a better deal to get a 10% match on their 401k, they agreed to it. Doesn’t mean SWAPA will unless the membership wants to. Non contract employees, that’s a different story.

Buybacks are now the thing again. UAL just announced theirs. But when you read the fine print, the BOD has total discretion on when they can do it. It is mind boggling that a company(UAL) that has 25 Billion in debt would do that with on 17 billion in cash. Totally upside down. But for us to take precious cash at the moment with all that capex to be spent on the 800 airplanes to be redone is also reckless. Moody’s just lowered their outlook on some of SWA’ senior unsecured debt. Still investment grade but some on Wallstreet are not impressed.

JR was the NC chairman. He helped write this current CBA. Which by the way, I voted for. Those who are entrenched with negotiating for four plus years have some idea what to expect from leadership at HQ. It doesn’t mean they agree with it. Doesn’t mean they sleep with the enemy. SWAPA doesn’t exist without SWA. SWA can’t fly airplanes without SWAPA’s CBA. I voted for him.

MudhammedCJ

That's what I did. I can't support these guys after their stance on the vax, side letter 1, the holiday pay bs, etc. I want them to see at least one vote for the biggest tool on the list as an alternative to them.

RJSAviator76

It wouldn't let me vote for "Mulcher" 😂

Fuseplug

When voting on the budget, don't forget the dues SWApA collected on your ratification bonus. This was not done on previous RBs, if I'm not mistaken. It appears they'll be using the money they took from you to fund some swanky new digs.

e6bpilot

Quoting your post just to have an anchor point. Not all of this is directed towards you. This thread is lots of assumptions and not really any good information.

SWAPA leadership in days past decided to buy the empire central building. What they didn't do was maintain the building or sell it when it was wise. Now they are sitting on a commercial building in bad need of maintenance in a run down and crime ridden neighborhood. The real estate market sucks, especially for office buildings. Their proposal is to move the operation to a leased office in las colinas and sell the building on empire central. Sure, they could stay in the building and put more money into it, but what is the end game? At this point, keeping it would be throwing good money away. Total sunk cost fallacy. Time to move on.

I also disagree with dues on the bonus, but we aren't getting that back. They clearly need to be responsible in the budget. The membership has grown, the union provides valuable services, but some line items are pretty questionable. The budget will pass. It always passes. If you have grievances with it, the best way to address it is to vote no and to call the second VP directly. That is his job and he takes it very seriously.

Not voting because you are upset about Covid or whatever happened in the past is childish and counterproductive. Vote or quit complaining.

The union works for you. The best way to change it is to either vote your interests or run for office. I don't agree with the way things are run all the time, and I let my voice be heard. Just taking your toys and going home accomplishes nothing.

Zman81

agreed we need more complainers to step up to the plate and run for office. There is also plenty of committees that need help and always looking for someone to add! Me I am just to lazy so I don’t complain !!!