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Those of us that weren't trying to figure out rudders in a Seminole a few short years ago remember the Delta of say 2003-2006. Old fleet, Delta Express failure, DFW base closure, bankruptcy, first ever furlough for Delta, almost purchased by US Airways, very convenient merger with NWA. Sure I'm forgetting other stuff...
Don't forget two other very dirty things associated with Delta...the DALPA givebacks on scope that caused the shifting of flying to CRJs flown by "C-scale" pilots and the closing of Comair for the strike the late 2000s.
Delta has a great product, great network, etc right now, but if you'd posted here in on APC that was their future in 2006 you would have been laughed right back to your Myspace page.
Don't forget two other very dirty things associated with Delta...the DALPA givebacks on scope that caused the shifting of flying to CRJs flown by "C-scale" pilots and the closing of Comair for the strike the late 2000s.
Delta has a great product, great network, etc right now, but if you'd posted here in on APC that was their future in 2006 you would have been laughed right back to your Myspace page.
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Those of us that weren't trying to figure out rudders in a Seminole a few short years ago remember the Delta of say 2003-2006. Old fleet, Delta Express failure, DFW base closure, bankruptcy, first ever furlough for Delta, almost purchased by US Airways, very convenient merger with NWA. Sure I'm forgetting other stuff...
Don't forget two other very dirty things associated with Delta...the DALPA givebacks on scope that caused the shifting of flying to CRJs flown by "C-scale" pilots and the closing of Comair for the strike the late 2000s.
Delta has a great product, great network, etc right now, but if you'd posted here in on APC that was their future in 2006 you would have been laughed right back to your Myspace page.
Don't forget two other very dirty things associated with Delta...the DALPA givebacks on scope that caused the shifting of flying to CRJs flown by "C-scale" pilots and the closing of Comair for the strike the late 2000s.
Delta has a great product, great network, etc right now, but if you'd posted here in on APC that was their future in 2006 you would have been laughed right back to your Myspace page.
DAL sure hit it out of the park. In that time GK ruined a great airline that will be lucky to survive after his tenure. I am guessing he wanted to outdo Sears .
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Those of us that weren't trying to figure out rudders in a Seminole a few short years ago remember the Delta of say 2003-2006. Old fleet, Delta Express failure, DFW base closure, bankruptcy, first ever furlough for Delta, almost purchased by US Airways, very convenient merger with NWA. Sure I'm forgetting other stuff...
Don't forget two other very dirty things associated with Delta...the DALPA givebacks on scope that caused the shifting of flying to CRJs flown by "C-scale" pilots and the closing of Comair for the strike the late 2000s.
Delta has a great product, great network, etc right now, but if you'd posted here in on APC that was their future in 2006 you would have been laughed right back to your Myspace page.
Don't forget two other very dirty things associated with Delta...the DALPA givebacks on scope that caused the shifting of flying to CRJs flown by "C-scale" pilots and the closing of Comair for the strike the late 2000s.
Delta has a great product, great network, etc right now, but if you'd posted here in on APC that was their future in 2006 you would have been laughed right back to your Myspace page.
I don't think the sine waves are going to hit the peaks and valleys of the past, but it's still a sine wave. Delta is one bad management team away from going through it all again.
Every single titan of industry gets brought to their knees eventually. Sears, Pan-Am, and Standard Oil were all companies that were going to rule the world forever.
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A lot of posts on here recently by people who have clearly never seen the struggle days of this industry.
I don't think the sine waves are going to hit the peaks and valleys of the past, but it's still a sine wave. Delta is one bad management team away from going through it all again.
Every single titan of industry gets brought to their knees eventually. Sears, Pan-Am, and Standard Oil were all companies that were going to rule the world forever.
I don't think the sine waves are going to hit the peaks and valleys of the past, but it's still a sine wave. Delta is one bad management team away from going through it all again.
Every single titan of industry gets brought to their knees eventually. Sears, Pan-Am, and Standard Oil were all companies that were going to rule the world forever.
is being an airline executive so difficult or do the airlines attract idiots?
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Every airline is one bad team away. 5 years ago I said Delta and Southwest uniquely had the resources to survive an 80s/2000s bad cycle, if the regulators allow the freedom to do so. I still think that.
is being an airline executive so difficult or do the airlines attract idiots?
is being an airline executive so difficult or do the airlines attract idiots?
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Southwest used to be agile, moving from an intra-Texas airline, spreading during deregulation, becoming a powerhouse in the intra-CA market/expansion after 9/11, grabbing east coast gates with the AirTran purchase. After that, they forgot how to be agile and be a "first mover".
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