mrcwbl

Considering it was said more than once it isn’t station closures, I would say unlikely.

RJSAviator76

https://viewfromthewing.com/southwes...e-gate-access/

tallpilot

So neither Hawaiian nor Southwest can make money flying interisland? Is even the 717 too big? Too much frequency? Are ferries better? Caravans? DHC-8s?

I suppose having direct narrow body service from the west coast to most of the islands does put a damper on the tourists using it.

No surprise about North-South West coast flying. That hasn't been profitable since deregulation.

e6bpilot

This thread is entertaining, but short on actual info.

The fact is the SWA COO, I am assuming under duress, made a video stating that tough choices lie ahead and pre-apologizing to the people affected by said choices.

That's it. No other info. Nobody knows anything else, and if they say they do they are lying.

It could be huge HQ layoffs, it could be shrinking 20 stations, it could be any number of things. We are long on predictions and short on actual facts.

Two things most of the uber negative troll posters in this thread have in common:
1. They don't know anything.
2. They have some strange affinity for hating on Southwest and, by extension, the people that work there. It's very odd and weirdly personal sounding.

Tough times likely lie ahead for the whole industry. There is a big mismatch in capacity and demand right now and that is with a strong economy. Travel is changing. The companies that can crack that code will be the ones that succeed. Interesting times lie ahead for sure.

PineappleXpres

Too many airlines charging below cost to run the other carrier out has resulted in history repeating itself. Aloha/Hawaiian made it by putting a stop to that and having anti-trust immunity to set fares. 717 is perfect. Charging the equivalent of flights on the mainland of the same distance on the mainland is not unreasonable.

Smooth at FL450

based on what metric? Load factor alone? LMAO

PineappleXpres

https://youtu.be/yGLWAstxfo8?si=Sg-SZ9o6sIwzVtai

SWA came to harm HAL. Not make money. Now that HAL is not dead, why not change course. GL to you as pilots and the company. But the Hawaii experiment has harmed your company and forced a buy out on ours. If SWA came in, without the overcapacity bomb mentality, maybe things would be different. Why not be upset at GK/AW for your own sake? Not for mine.

rickair7777

This is objective plausible, but has nothing whatsoever to do with any pilots. I'll let it stay up for discussion but please be civil.

PineappleXpres

Sorry if it doesn’t seem civil. Not my intent. But recognizing SWA failures in Hawaii is worth mention after they denied or downplayed them for the past 6 years. It makes up a small part of their overall flying but it disproportionately requires more assets and they’ve done it irresponsible with one objective. And they’ve been charging severely below cost for what? I’ve already given you my thought on that one.,.

Posting this on the HAL board vs SWA is the only eye brow raise. Different audience and different perspectives would be my rational.

Black Coffee

Watterson should have announced this at the spirit party. I'm amazed that Andrew and Bob can run a disaster of an operation, all while throwing multi million dollar parties for themselves.