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08-23-2024, 07:53 AM
#31
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It doesn't help that a lot of our pilots are so scared of their own shadow that they have the FAs sit on any flight with forecast turbulence. At the captain leadership day in Dallas, the VP of inflight said that they would rather them set up, get one drink out, and have to clean up than to not try at all and end up sitting and staring at customers on a smooth flight. That's the policy I go with.
08-23-2024, 07:59 AM
#32
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what a joke, that is not the philosophy out on the line with the flight attendants. The VP is saying one thing and doing ( not doing another). Just Another worthless VP.
08-23-2024, 08:21 AM
#33
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I fly the line pretty heavily and with very few exceptions, this is not my experience at all.
It doesn't help that a lot of our pilots are so scared of their own shadow that they have the FAs sit on any flight with forecast turbulence. At the captain leadership day in Dallas, the VP of inflight said that they would rather them set up, get one drink out, and have to clean up than to not try at all and end up sitting and staring at customers on a smooth flight. That's the policy I go with.
It doesn't help that a lot of our pilots are so scared of their own shadow that they have the FAs sit on any flight with forecast turbulence. At the captain leadership day in Dallas, the VP of inflight said that they would rather them set up, get one drink out, and have to clean up than to not try at all and end up sitting and staring at customers on a smooth flight. That's the policy I go with.
08-23-2024, 08:46 AM
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Just had one call up and ask to turn the sign on in fairly light chop. I told them I would when I felt it was too bumpy to have it off.
Seriously, the seat belt sign culture is ludicrous and off the rails at this airline.
08-23-2024, 09:03 AM
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I don't know what airline you are flying at, but it isn't the same one I am. I have had exactly one flight attendant in the last two years ask me to turn the sign on. I told her I would when we have reason to.
08-23-2024, 09:06 AM
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You guys are taking this way too seriously and personally. Put it on them. I tell them what the forecast conditions are and let them decide. I haven't had one crew in that situation tell me they aren't serving. They may say "it's a little bumpy right now but we will see how it goes" but they always end up serving in the end. They are afraid of customer letters and employees snitching on them. They use us as top cover. If you don't provide the top cover, they will do what they are supposed to do. If they don't, let them be the ones to explain it.
08-23-2024, 10:40 AM
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Flying the line I feel our pilots are scared to death of the FA’s and even the smallest bit of non-smooth air immediately generates the seatbelt sign.
08-23-2024, 10:42 AM
#38
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I've had 2-3 in the last year call up and ask me to turn the seat belt sign on. Not necessarily tell me to do it, but it also wasn't a polite "hey did you forget...." type request. I can't imagine FAs at any other airline having the audacity to do this. The work ethic and order of hierarchy at this place is beyond dysfunctional. I don't look down my nose at any work group here, but where exactly do they get this mentality? And I trend towards the cautious side on turbulence. Unreal.
08-23-2024, 11:48 AM
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I've had 2-3 in the last year call up and ask me to turn the seat belt sign on. Not necessarily tell me to do it, but it also wasn't a polite "hey did you forget...." type request. I can't imagine FAs at any other airline having the audacity to do this. The work ethic and order of hierarchy at this place is beyond dysfunctional. I don't look down my nose at any work group here, but where exactly do they get this mentality? And I trend towards the cautious side on turbulence. Unreal.
When my buddy left for United, he mentioned that very thing as one of the biggest contrasts. He said there he was treated with deference and respect and that he never felt in a hurry.
08-23-2024, 12:09 PM
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You guys are taking this way too seriously and personally. Put it on them. I tell them what the forecast conditions are and let them decide. I haven't had one crew in that situation tell me they aren't serving. They may say "it's a little bumpy right now but we will see how it goes" but they always end up serving in the end. They are afraid of customer letters and employees snitching on them. They use us as top cover. If you don't provide the top cover, they will do what they are supposed to do. If they don't, let them be the ones to explain it.
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