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Old 08-21-2024, 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by meahPilot
This a flight attendant forum? Pilots that stand at a desk begging for hotel points at 3 star hotels are the same ones drinking airplane coffee out of paper cups. Live a little guys.

Speaking of FAs. I see the company is going to hire 2000 internals as FAs , as we are already overstated right now . Hopefully after they are done all the training, they fire 3000-5000 of the lazy ones that never do a service.
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Old 08-21-2024, 08:53 AM
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Speaking of FAs. I see the company is going to hire 2000 internals as FAs , as we are already overstated right now . Hopefully after they are done all the training, they fire 3000-5000 of the lazy ones that never do a service.
Haha. Good one.

They are trying to end the year with a lower overall headcount, so it makes sense to open an internal window vs just doing outright layoffs. First year FAs are cheap to keep on the payroll and they will eventually need them as attrition and eventual growth happen.
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Old 08-21-2024, 11:20 AM
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Haha. Good one.

They are trying to end the year with a lower overall headcount, so it makes sense to open an internal window vs just doing outright layoffs. First year FAs are cheap to keep on the payroll and they will eventually need them as attrition and eventual growth happen.
attrition? Do they ever retire or just milk the benefits until they die
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Old 08-21-2024, 04:11 PM
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attrition? Do they ever retire or just milk the benefits until they die
I think most of the FA attrition happens from the bottom of the list. Hard to give away (or even sell) your trips when they are all ready reserve.
I also assume there is some level of overmanning where junior FAs save them money by flying trips that would go VJA to senior FAs.
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Old 08-21-2024, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by e6bpilot
I think most of the FA attrition happens from the bottom of the list. Hard to give away (or even sell) your trips when they are all ready reserve.
I also assume there is some level of overmanning where junior FAs save them money by flying trips that would go VJA to senior FAs.
Im wondering if a lot of seniors waited for their retro and then called it quits….
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Old 08-21-2024, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by e6bpilot
I think most of the FA attrition happens from the bottom of the list. Hard to give away (or even sell) your trips when they are all ready reserve.
I also assume there is some level of overmanning where junior FAs save them money by flying trips that would go VJA to senior FAs.
Yes. It's a good way to "hide" the overstaffing. There are many FAs who would like to work less. They'll pay more in benefits (FAs can work zero and still get full benefits), but if you're overstaffed, the company is paying benefuts anyways.
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Old 08-21-2024, 06:41 PM
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This a flight attendant forum? Pilots that stand at a desk begging for hotel points at 3 star hotels are the same ones drinking airplane coffee out of paper cups. Live a little guys.
Hey, I’ll ask if if they say no I move on. If it gives me perks, I’ll take it.
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Old 08-23-2024, 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by meahPilot
This a flight attendant forum? Pilots that stand at a desk begging for hotel points at 3 star hotels are the same ones drinking airplane coffee out of paper cups. Live a little guys.
Ask a NetJets pilot how valuable those points are... Hell as a commuter I rack up enough each year for a few nights free. I flew with a clown back in the corporate world that would negotiate a couple cents off per gallon at Avfuel to not take the fuel points so the airplane owners that would buy $1500 bottles of wine with dinner could save $8 on fuel....
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Old 08-23-2024, 06:53 AM
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Ask a NetJets pilot how valuable those points are... Hell as a commuter I rack up enough each year for a few nights free. I flew with a clown back in the corporate world that would negotiate a couple cents off per gallon at Avfuel to not take the fuel points so the airplane owners that would buy $1500 bottles of wine with dinner could save $8 on fuel....
Yes! When I was doing corporate flying I loved earning points using my own company card. Former free breakfast at the Arden for two years after getting hired here.

When our corporate “leadership” started having company meetings where they mentioned our pilots spent too much on lunch in Washington DC, I knew it was time to move on. Of course, we spent the money to top off the jet, order sedan service, catering, landing fees, deicing, etc…but my $30 lunch was the problem! LOL
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Originally Posted by Mozam
Speaking of FAs. I see the company is going to hire 2000 internals as FAs , as we are already overstated right now . Hopefully after they are done all the training, they fire 3000-5000 of the lazy ones that never do a service.
Once pax realize that we actually have the worst service in the industry, we are really screwed. None of them want to work and constantly beg for the seatbelt sign to stay on.
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