REF 5

just curious. What language do you want?

5tools

Now come on Case has your back, you don't believe that? Or is he busy making managment videos with Lee. Looks like to me he's being groomed.

Lewbronski

Now that's some funny sh** right there. There is ZERO reason for the company to give up revenue by saving premium, aisle, or window seats for DH'ers since 93% of you all voted YES!!! for this contract, including, specifically, the following language:

Starting in 2025, SWA pilots will be sitting in middle seats when DH'ing close to 100% of the time thanks to the language 93% of us handed the company. As they say, language matters. And no, there won't be nearly enough of our cult members calling in fatigued after a middle seat DH to amount to anything more than a mosquito buzzing in the company's ear. Thanks Jody! Thanks Casey!! Thanks BOD!!! Thanks to the 93%!!!!

All of our jobs just became that much more painful.

Maybe we'll get better language in 2032 or 2033 when we're voting on the 2028 CBA.

e6bpilot

Any of you guys ever offline jumpseat? The whole point of having premium economy seats is to sell them. Leisure travelers don't want to pay for them. Crew generally end up in those seats even when they show up to the gate and list.

You guys are killing me. I am sure some last minute DHs will end up in middle seats just like they do now, but I am willing to bet the vast majority end up in the new seats whatever those end up being (sounds like just extra legroom).

It would make sense that we just pick the seat in the app when we check in, which means it will be up to us.

Black Coffee

Hopefully he's fired before any more of his ridiculous operational policies are in place. Elliott released a statement to CNBC today stating how incompetent this leadership team is, and its long overdue on their replacement.

tanker

Unless the new more legroom seats are going to be priced at the Business Class price I can't see why anyone would buy a Business Class ticket. Are the drink coupons really worth the extra price?

9thAmendment

I think SWA is going to run into the same problem with the new economy plus seats that they have now with their current seats. SWA prices are often as expensive or more expensive than premium economy on other airlines. Sometimes first class is within $75 of the cheapest SWA fare. I assume the new legroom seats will meet or exceed first class prices on others, minus the actual first class and amenities. Who would do that?

Sounds like management was scared out of 2x2 seating due to the cost of buying 8 new seats per aircraft.

nene

I always thought the brilliance of the first come first serve seating was that when a pax did not get seated together or in middle they largely blamed themselves for not checking in earlier or paying more etc..... Now it'll be like the other airlines if stuck with bad seat or separated you'll blame the airline.

REF 5

When this get's turned on, it will be competitive as far as pricing goes. It has to. They will price the product to get butts into seat's. Rapid Rewards has brought close to 5 billion in redemption points as of the 1st quarter of 2024 that is on the books. Almost half of SWA's air traffic liabilty(advanced ticket sales) is RR. Other than assign seating, this will be a big change also. That will hopefully also entice people to swipe more. If they try to gouge the consumer, especially in this early stage, it will fail big. If try to screw the RR customers, that will fail too. I think the simplicity of moving seats around, the cost of it doing it and speed of which to convert 800 airplanes is probably as far as they were willing to go for now.

With all this hoopla about assign seating/premium has anybody noticed our aircraft deliveries that are to be scheduled over the next few years?

"Looking beyond 2024, we remain committed to earning our right to grow and plan to keep any future growth at or below macroeconomic growth trends until we reach long-term financial goal of returns on invested capital consistently in excess of our cost of capital."

Another words, no growth for a while. I bet every new airplane we get, one will go to the boneyard. We won't be hiring for long while.

WHACKMASTER

Where can we see this statement? I can’t find it anywhere on the internet?