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Old 07-24-2024, 09:17 PM
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Now available for sale on southwest.com effective February 13, 2025...

LOS ANGELES-BALTIMORE
WN 5998 9:30pm-5:20am+1 NONSTOP

LAS VEGAS-BALTIMORE
WN 6001 10:00pm-5:30am+1 NONSTOP

PHOENIX-BALTIMORE
WN 6099 11:05pm-5:10am+1 NONSTOP

LOS ANGELES-NASHVILLE
WN 6050 11:45pm-6:00am+1 NONSTOP

LAS VEGAS-ORLANDO
WN 5999 10:50pm-6:05am+1 NONSTOP

There may be more.... this is all I could find.
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Old 07-25-2024, 09:21 AM
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Now available for sale on southwest.com effective February 13, 2025...

LOS ANGELES-BALTIMORE
WN 5998 9:30pm-5:20am+1 NONSTOP

LAS VEGAS-BALTIMORE
WN 6001 10:00pm-5:30am+1 NONSTOP

PHOENIX-BALTIMORE
WN 6099 11:05pm-5:10am+1 NONSTOP

LOS ANGELES-NASHVILLE
WN 6050 11:45pm-6:00am+1 NONSTOP

LAS VEGAS-ORLANDO
WN 5999 10:50pm-6:05am+1 NONSTOP

There may be more.... this is all I could find.
So are these AM or PM trips?
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Old 07-25-2024, 10:06 AM
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Highly recommend you watch the video that just came out by crew planning. Three day trip with two duty periods. One leg out and then back. Will pay 19.5 TFP's. commutable on both ends. It wil go senior I believe.
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Originally Posted by SWAFA
Now available for sale on southwest.com effective February 13, 2025...

LOS ANGELES-BALTIMORE
WN 5998 9:30pm-5:20am+1 NONSTOP

LAS VEGAS-BALTIMORE
WN 6001 10:00pm-5:30am+1 NONSTOP

PHOENIX-BALTIMORE
WN 6099 11:05pm-5:10am+1 NONSTOP

LOS ANGELES-NASHVILLE
WN 6050 11:45pm-6:00am+1 NONSTOP

LAS VEGAS-ORLANDO
WN 5999 10:50pm-6:05am+1 NONSTOP

There may be more.... this is all I could find.
Wow, Nonstop!
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Old 07-25-2024, 10:36 AM
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Wow, Nonstop!
I can’t believe you guys are going to over fly Omaha and Wichita like that. Very discriminatory
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Originally Posted by REF 5
Highly recommend you watch the video that just came out by crew planning. Three day trip with two duty periods. One leg out and then back. Will pay 19.5 TFP's. commutable on both ends. It wil go senior I believe.
If they can pull that off it’s awesome for those that want that, however I have no faith they will do it this way regardless of what that video says.

I hope I am wrong
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If they can pull that off it’s awesome for those that want that, however I have no faith they will do it this way regardless of what that video says.

I hope I am wrong
There are a couple reasons why they are constructing them this way.

First, the contract won't let them put more than one leg on a redeye duty period. You have to have proper rest prior to the leg, which doesn't really fit with the regular schedule, so the entire trip would have to be redeye which makes no sense if you are ending on the east coast since you would have to start from the east coast.

Second, any other way they did it would end in a dystopian nightmare of fatigue calls and I think they know it.

I think these lines will go very senior. I would highly consider bidding them if I were east coast based.

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Originally Posted by e6bpilot
There are a couple reasons why they are constructing them this way.

First, the contract won't let them put more than one leg on a redeye duty period. You have to have proper rest prior to the leg, which doesn't really fit with the regular schedule, so the entire trip would have to be redeye which makes no sense if you are ending on the east coast since you would have to start from the east coast.

Second, any other way they did it would end in a dystopian nightmare of fatigue calls and I think they know it.

I think these lines will go very senior. I would highly consider bidding them if I were east coast based.
At other airlines, they frequently create three and four day trips (I've even seen five days) with trailing redeyes.

You could make a four day with the following:

Day one: 6-7.5 hours of flying
Day two: 6-7.5 hours of flying (getting in around 2200 PDT)
--24 hour layover--
Day three into four: redeye

Not sure what your daily rig is, but for 5:15 thats a 21:00 four day. Would be shocked if this wasn't the end goal.
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Old 07-25-2024, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by CRJCapitan
At other airlines, they frequently create three and four day trips (I've even seen five days) with trailing redeyes.

You could make a four day with the following:

Day one: 6-7.5 hours of flying
Day two: 6-7.5 hours of flying (getting in around 2200 PDT)
--24 hour layover--
Day three into four: redeye

Not sure what your daily rig is, but for 5:15 thats a 21:00 four day. Would be shocked if this wasn't the end goal.
Those that nurtured ETOPS out of it's infancy have def spoken about how the schedule wasn't like it used to be. Baby steps into the normalization of red-eye schedulization.
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Originally Posted by journeybird
Those that nurtured ETOPS out of its infancy have def spoken about how the schedule wasn't like it used to be. Baby steps into the normalization of red-eye schedulization.
I would think there would be Hawaii - west coast red eyes also coming.
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