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Old 07-25-2024, 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by e6bpilot

I think these lines will go very senior. I would highly consider bidding them if I were east coast based.
Im counting on it!
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Old 07-26-2024, 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by tallpilot
So are these AM or PM trips?
LOL, I guess for a east coast crew its an AM, PM's for the west coast
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Old 07-26-2024, 06:47 AM
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I can’t believe you guys are going to over fly Omaha and Wichita like that. Very discriminatory
I heard Amarillo and Lubbock are considering a DOT complaint. Won't even mention Harlingen.
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Originally Posted by madmax757
I would think there would be Hawaii - west coast red eyes also coming.
You can count on it. A huge percentage of HI-mainland flying at all the carriers is all night flying, and they’re almost always full. I’ve flown widebodies out with a 2300 departure that were oversold with triple digit stand by lists.
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You can count on it. A huge percentage of HI-mainland flying at all the carriers is all night flying, and they’re almost always full. I’ve flown widebodies out with a 2300 departure that were oversold with triple digit stand by lists.
it's the only way to make a connection consistently. I remember when Swa started hawaii flying you could by ticket from BWI to HNL but not in reverse because of lack of connections.
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Old 07-26-2024, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by madmax757
I would think there would be Hawaii - west coast red eyes also coming.
Those suck bad. That's the one type of redeye I avoid like the plague. Get back to the west coast just in time to drive home in rush hour traffic.
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Old 07-26-2024, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Those suck bad. That's the one type of redeye I avoid like the plague. Get back to the west coast just in time to drive home in rush hour traffic.
Just like East Coast red-eyes.
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Old 07-26-2024, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by e6bpilot
There are a couple reasons why they are constructing them this way.

First, the contract won't let them put more than one leg on a redeye duty period. You have to have proper rest prior to the leg, which doesn't really fit with the regular schedule, so the entire trip would have to be redeye which makes no sense if you are ending on the east coast since you would have to start from the east coast.

Second, any other way they did it would end in a dystopian nightmare of fatigue calls and I think they know it.

I think these lines will go very senior. I would highly consider bidding them if I were east coast based.
Again, I hope you are right, and I am wrong. However, I still think they will ruin this for us, at least in the long run.
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Old 07-27-2024, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Cyio
Again, I hope you are right, and I am wrong. However, I still think they will ruin this for us, at least in the long run.
You're right, they could do them on 4 days, especially Hawaii flying.
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Old 07-27-2024, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
Just like East Coast red-eyes.
If I do an east coast redeye, somebody drives me to the hotel and I stay there for 20 hours.
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