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07-01-2024, 06:08 AM

#31

UGBSM

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Originally Posted by Beech Dude

I agree. But any pilot worth their salt knows that CTAF and UNICOM are not one in the same. If they don't, they shouldn't have a commercial ticket, let alone an ATP.

Pilots use a CTAF to communicate with each other and coordinate their movements. UNICOM, on the other hand, is more like a customer service desk at the airport. CTAF is usually the tower frequency, and UNICOM exists specifically to keep that sort of traffic off the tower frequency.

07-01-2024, 07:09 AM

#32

Margaritaville

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Quote:

Originally Posted by UGBSM

Exactly. UNICOM at large airports is usally monitored by the FBO(s) and is used to arrange fuel and parking and passenger pickups etc. This is not the same as CTAF and every professional pilot should know this.

07-01-2024, 08:26 AM

#33

rickair7777

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Originally Posted by joepilot50

Making calls over CTAF are not a requirement at least FAR's.

I am not sure if SWA procedures dictate crews shall monitor and broadcast over CTAF at uncontrolled/tower closed fields.

You can still get violated for not complying with the AIM and maybe even AC's if said non-compliance creates a problem (such as an accident).

If the FAA promulgated the info, and you didn't read and heed, that can be grounds for 91.13.

07-01-2024, 10:00 AM

#34

joepilot50

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Originally Posted by rickair7777

Simply calling out the said statement of, " required CTAF calls"

You don't have to make them, but you certainly will probably have to defend that decision if anything happens.

07-01-2024, 01:36 PM

#35

galaxy flyer

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Originally Posted by UGBSM

Sort of, true uncontrolled airports often use Unicom as the CTAF frequency.

07-01-2024, 04:00 PM

#36

PowerShift

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Quote:

Originally Posted by galaxy flyer

Sort of, true uncontrolled airports often use Unicom as the CTAF frequency.

Correct. They may not have a "FAA" freq assigned to them, such as 122.80 etc. I came from the 135 world of little airports and some fields use UNICOM as that is also the freq for their light system, etc. For those old enough, remember the FSS each state had? They had a freq as well and would "coordinate" traffic etc, albeit "advisory" only.

This is PPL 101. All of the airports we serve the jeep app plate will have a CTAF above whatever freq that airport uses and a ball note for the lighting if different then CTAF.