Low flight over OKC
06-21-2024, 01:48 PM
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One of the 'talked about' procedures that has been promised or theatened for years, depending on your view, is flying to the FAF on ANY approach prior to landing. A/C should be configured and on-speed at FAF. Eliminates pretty much all guesswork, ensures both pilots have the 'shared mental model' and gives you a fixed point in space to aim for in all circumstances. Perhaps this is the incident that pushes that procedure into practice.
06-21-2024, 02:21 PM
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reminds me of years ago when they landed at the wrong airport.
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/sou...confused-them/
06-21-2024, 02:30 PM
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Do you guys at Southwest really not back-up ALL your approaches? Like “eh- F it I see the runway…I’m pretty sure this is the one.”
reminds me of years ago when they landed at the wrong airport.
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/sou...confused-them/
reminds me of years ago when they landed at the wrong airport.
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/sou...confused-them/
06-21-2024, 05:58 PM
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On the other hand, when tower tells you to maintain 180 until the marker and you fully configure instead, you'll get paid more when they tell you to go around.
06-21-2024, 06:40 PM
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06-21-2024, 06:46 PM
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And how often are transport category airplanes at 500' 9 miles out on final? The approach path does line up with the runway at OKC...but that doesn't explain being at 500' AGL that far out.
06-21-2024, 06:51 PM
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Let the controllers explain to AOV (Air Traffic Oversight) and AFS (Flight Standards) how they don't want airplanes to fly stable approaches.
06-21-2024, 07:11 PM
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Flying 180 to the marker, followed by final configuration, slow to target speed, and checklist complete by 1,000 feet is not only a safe and stable approach, it should be effortless by this stage of the game.
06-21-2024, 07:34 PM
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Depends on which marker we are talking about. It sounded above like we were discussing the FAF, OM, where you would be stabilized. It would not be the same thing at the DA/MM. But I may have been misinterpreting, I was assuming they maintain speed until near the OM, then stabilized from them on. If they were needlessly slow way before that, then there may be an argument to maintain a faster speed when requested.
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