Low flight over OKC
06-26-2024, 10:51 AM
#131
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It ain't just a couple of button pushes sir. There are very specific procedures when cleared for approach when you can dial in a new altitude. There is another procedure for when you can set missed approach altitude. There is another procedure on when you have to manually edit RNP. There is another procedure if your GPS is deferred or it is blocked or no RAIM. There is another procedure if you are shooting a AR approach as far as missed approach procedures.
These are procedures you cannot commit to memory, nor should you. That is why there is a 2 page briefing that should be reviewed before you do the approach if you haven't done a lot of them recently. You sound like a guy in flight ops that approved this type ****. As far as coming to APC to complain.... LOL.
These are procedures you cannot commit to memory, nor should you. That is why there is a 2 page briefing that should be reviewed before you do the approach if you haven't done a lot of them recently. You sound like a guy in flight ops that approved this type ****. As far as coming to APC to complain.... LOL.
These approaches are f5cked up all the time at every company because they are very different than ILS's and they take all kinds of extra steps to accomplish correctly but you keep telling yourself that they are pretty much the same and if you cannot do them then you are just substandard and stupid. Must be nice to be so awesome at your job. Please tell us more about how great a pilot you are. I am sure your boyfriend is tired of hearing it.
I'm saying a pilot sitting in the left seat of an aircraft, with decades of experience, making a half million bucks should be able to shoot two types of approaches. Less types of approches then an 80 hour pilot going for the instrument rating has to demonstrate.
06-26-2024, 02:28 PM
#132
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It was what the FAA required to keep the Classics and the NG as a common bid group. Continental Airlines had the same thing going on when they still had a mixed NG/Classic fleet (the NGs had the glass six-pack).
06-26-2024, 05:50 PM
#133
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It ain't just a couple of button pushes sir. There are very specific procedures when cleared for approach when you can dial in a new altitude. There is another procedure for when you can set missed approach altitude. There is another procedure on when you have to manually edit RNP. There is another procedure if your GPS is deferred or it is blocked or no RAIM. There is another procedure if you are shooting a AR approach as far as missed approach procedures.
These are procedures you cannot commit to memory, nor should you. That is why there is a 2 page briefing that should be reviewed before you do the approach if you haven't done a lot of them recently. You sound like a guy in flight ops that approved this type ****. As far as coming to APC to complain.... LOL.
These approaches are f5cked up all the time at every company because they are very different than ILS's and they take all kinds of extra steps to accomplish correctly but you keep telling yourself that they are pretty much the same and if you cannot do them then you are just substandard and stupid. Must be nice to be so awesome at your job. Please tell us more about how great a pilot you are. I am sure your boyfriend is tired of hearing it.
These are procedures you cannot commit to memory, nor should you. That is why there is a 2 page briefing that should be reviewed before you do the approach if you haven't done a lot of them recently. You sound like a guy in flight ops that approved this type ****. As far as coming to APC to complain.... LOL.
These approaches are f5cked up all the time at every company because they are very different than ILS's and they take all kinds of extra steps to accomplish correctly but you keep telling yourself that they are pretty much the same and if you cannot do them then you are just substandard and stupid. Must be nice to be so awesome at your job. Please tell us more about how great a pilot you are. I am sure your boyfriend is tired of hearing it.
06-26-2024, 09:03 PM
#134
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06-26-2024, 09:40 PM
#135
Strike averted!
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Yup. It definitely wasn't just us: https://www.airliners.net/photo/Cont...-824/1749369/L
06-27-2024, 07:08 AM
#137
Feeling blessed.
Joined APC: Feb 2005
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Professionalism.
Tired. Late. PF makes a mistake (or 2). PM makes the bigger mistake by not catching it.
"TOO LOW (gear or flaps)" followed by "TERRAIN" probably sounded, or would have sounded soon enough.
They learned about flying from that.
"TOO LOW (gear or flaps)" followed by "TERRAIN" probably sounded, or would have sounded soon enough.
They learned about flying from that.
06-27-2024, 04:01 PM
#138
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As much as the airline industry likes to preach safety, they have no problem with you operating 4 legs after a 330 wakeup. Yeah, it's within the 117 rules and you signed for it, but everyone knows you are not operating at 100%. The early mornings/late nights are the equivalent of flying after a couple drinks.
06-27-2024, 05:03 PM
#139
At your mom's house
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Position: cpt 737
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As much as the airline industry likes to preach safety, they have no problem with you operating 4 legs after a 330 wakeup. Yeah, it's within the 117 rules and you signed for it, but everyone knows you are not operating at 100%. The early mornings/late nights are the equivalent of flying after a couple drinks.
06-27-2024, 06:11 PM
#140
Can’t find crew pickup
Joined APC: Jun 2021
Posts: 2,235
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