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Old 06-13-2024, 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by 9thAmendment
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https://crankyflier.com/2024/06/13/e...terposttitle-2

“With that knowledge, Elliott is trying to find the easiest way to turn Southwest into an ATM. It only has a little over 10 percent of the airline's shares, so it needs investor allies. And that's where it focused its attention first.

I don't know if this has changed, but in the first day or two, I'm told Elliott didn't even try to talk to labor. It's entirely possible that labor just wasn't as important in Elliott's minds and they've gotten there now, but it's a critical mistake if you're trying to win hearts and minds.”
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I am guessing it is the Tucker link so no need to worry, I didn't click on it. I don't need a Russian agent to tell me that this situation is bad. I am already read up on how these guys work. I get my news from western sources, though, so thanks for the warning.
Except he's calling out the Republicans as they've been in the pocket of this vulture capitalist... In fact, if you didn't know anything about Tucker or FNC, and you saw this segment, you'd think this was a left wing hit piece.

You should watch it. This guy is coming at us.
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Old 06-13-2024, 09:09 AM
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Except he's calling out the Republicans as they've been in the pocket of this vulture capitalist... In fact, if you didn't know anything about Tucker or FNC, and you saw this segment, you'd think this was a left wing hit piece.

You should watch it. This guy is coming at us.
I am in total agreement with you RJS. This is not the good omen that some pilots think it is. If the scenario plays out the wrong way, it could do big harm to this company and its employees. Hoping to be proven wrong. These hedge fund/VC "activists" are like a dystopian feature of late stage capitalism.
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Old 06-13-2024, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by e6bpilot
I am in total agreement with you RJS. This is not the good omen that some pilots think it is. If the scenario plays out the wrong way, it could do big harm to this company and its employees. Hoping to be proven wrong. These hedge fund/VC "activists" are like a dystopian feature of late stage capitalism.
Yeah while they might clean house, their long-term interests are not necessarily aligned with employee interests... especially employees stuck in a seniority/longevity system.
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Originally Posted by Cyio
I agree with you however after reading that link above I actually think they have a valid point. Perhaps tanking Bob and Gary and the promoting say Andrew is the better option as opposed to trying to bring in someone totally off the street. I would imagine a lot of pushback and even slower change.
What company or airline would hire Andrew as a CEO other than SWA? Hawaiian let him walk out the door.

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Old 06-13-2024, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Black Coffee
What company or airline would hire Andrew as a CEO other than SWA? Hawaiian let him walk out the door.
Please elaborate. Genuinely curious.
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Originally Posted by e6bpilot
I am in total agreement with you RJS. This is not the good omen that some pilots think it is. If the scenario plays out the wrong way, it could do big harm to this company and its employees. Hoping to be proven wrong. These hedge fund/VC "activists" are like a dystopian feature of late stage capitalism.
Amen brother. Completely agree. I also desperately want to be proven wrong, but I don't trust these vultures at all. This latest blog from CrankyFlier was spot on... these vultures literally cannot lose no matter what happens. While I'm a big proponent and fan of capitalism, I think vulture capitalism ought to be banned.

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Yeah while they might clean house, their long-term interests are not necessarily aligned with employee interests... especially employees stuck in a seniority/longevity system.
They most certainly aren't aligned with employee interests. They want stock and they can get it by running a great airline, or by selling off all the aircraft and shutting down the whole airline.
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Management is never aligned with employee interest. Get a clue.
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Management is never aligned with employee interest. Get a clue.
Hope you have some seniority, you going to need it.
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Old 06-14-2024, 09:49 AM
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Honest question.

Why doesn’t Southwest start charging for bags? Or put some upgraded economy rows they can charge for? Can they charge for a seat assignment? Other airlines have made billions on these fees over the last 15 years.

Might be a catch-22 though. The more they start looking like other airlines, the more people will start shopping other airlines.
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