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Old 04-09-2024, 04:57 AM
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This economy is slow rolling into a deep recesssion. The slower we enter, the slower we exit. The economy is being proped up by deficit spending and goverment spending. All the signs have been there. Fed EX CEO last year said, the economy was slowing. Many experts like Jamie Dimon and others have been saying the same thing for over year as well, but everyone said these guy were smoking crack because they supported Trump policies. Now we have a Airline furloughing, how soon before others follow suite if they cannot get their cost under control? And then there are all these new contracts, how long before the Airlines come back and ask for concessions to keep from laying off? Remember never let a good crisis go to waste. The rest of this year and first quarter of next year is going to be very interesting.
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Old 04-09-2024, 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna
how is the Captain vacation trade market compared to FO's?

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Different. More CAs looking for odd months when others aren’t off. Or summer months to get prem over the prime vac weeks. ELITT is the same. There used to be more weekday pairing dumped in. Net zero is usually different also. But I think with where lines are going all this might be changing.
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Old 04-09-2024, 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by mulcher
Different. More CAs looking for odd months when others aren’t off. Or summer months to get prem over the prime vac weeks. ELITT is the same. There used to be more weekday pairing dumped in. Net zero is usually different also. But I think with where lines are going all this might be changing.

I always thought the CA side had a lot more juice in the vacation trades just from watching what was posted in the swapa forum or Facebook. More weeks per person seems like it equals more grease for the machine.

It’ll be nice my last ten years here. I won’t be tied to summer vacation or popular vacation weeks any more and I’ll be maxed out on weeks unless we snag another week of vacation in contract 2032.
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Old 04-09-2024, 06:43 AM
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Sounds like a man who lives within his means. Smart. Those same FOs become captains. I spent a year lancing and following both seats. Captains do some really weird stuff, man. It honestly defies logic at times.
just saw a CA who was senior and under the cap bid straight on a POT before RSV trip. He was the only bidder.

I don’t care how or what you bid…not sure if the old guys know what’s going on with the new rules. Taught one guy in the jet bridge this week what LCO pays for trip changes after he was upset about a reroute….he was pretty happy after I told him what his trip was worth now. 🤷🏼‍♂️
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Old 04-09-2024, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Zard
I always thought the CA side had a lot more juice in the vacation trades just from watching what was posted in the swapa forum or Facebook. More weeks per person seems like it equals more grease for the machine.

It’ll be nice my last ten years here. I won’t be tied to summer vacation or popular vacation weeks any more and I’ll be maxed out on weeks unless we snag another week of vacation in contract 2032.
Yeah I need Spring, summer and fall break for the next 9 years and then I won’t care anymore. It’ll be nice going on vacation in April or Sept.
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Old 04-09-2024, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by flyguy81
just saw a CA who was senior and under the cap bid straight on a POT before RSV trip. He was the only bidder.

I don’t care how or what you bid…not sure if the old guys know what’s going on with the new rules. Taught one guy in the jet bridge this week what LCO pays for trip changes after he was upset about a reroute….he was pretty happy after I told him what his trip was worth now. 🤷🏼‍♂️
Yeah, well I have two changes 3 weeks ago and they did not pay what SWAPA audit claimed. It payed about 3 trips less. Smoke and mirrors, IMO
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Old 04-09-2024, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by mulcher
Different. More CAs looking for odd months when others aren’t off. Or summer months to get prem over the prime vac weeks. ELITT is the same. There used to be more weekday pairing dumped in. Net zero is usually different also. But I think with where lines are going all this might be changing.
ELITT has way more net zeros on the captain side. I am consistently able to max them out if I want to every month. Opening day is a nightmare, just like the FO side, but once it dies down, I am generally able to get whatever schedule I want besides maybe turns which are way less prevalent.

In the past two years, the FO side has been depleted by new hires getting IOE month lines. That should die down with new hires being a lot less plentiful.
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Old 04-09-2024, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by flyguy81
just saw a CA who was senior and under the cap bid straight on a POT before RSV trip. He was the only bidder.

I don’t care how or what you bid…not sure if the old guys know what’s going on with the new rules. Taught one guy in the jet bridge this week what LCO pays for trip changes after he was upset about a reroute….he was pretty happy after I told him what his trip was worth now. 🤷🏼‍♂️
many of the old capts have their wife bidding in opentime for them
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many of the old capts have their wife bidding in opentime for them
lol…that’s even worse!
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Old 04-10-2024, 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by flyguy81
just saw a CA who was senior and under the cap bid straight on a POT before RSV trip. He was the only bidder.

I don’t care how or what you bid…not sure if the old guys know what’s going on with the new rules. Taught one guy in the jet bridge this week what LCO pays for trip changes after he was upset about a reroute….he was pretty happy after I told him what his trip was worth now. 🤷🏼‍♂️

I notice the same lots of times. Usually the same pilots that have 1600 TFP sick.
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