SWA no longer hiring in 2024

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03-10-2024, 11:26 AM

#311

LAXtoDEN

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Originally Posted by Azpilot06

RUMINT (although from an approved social media creator and shot while at the mothership) suggests that the next round of hiring will have more competitive standards. Specifically referenced were:

-Increased impact of checkride failures
-1,000 hours of turbine time

While it's not surprising that the 1500 hour CFI era was short lived, plan accordingly future applicants

https://youtu.be/gj0taDDl7IQ?si=GnQIwN6dK368pRKT

Uhhhh yeaaa buddy that’s usually what happens when an airline literally stops all pilot hiring for 2024 and beyond. Hiring is going to get “competitive” is a hilarious spin.

03-10-2024, 11:51 AM

#312

PartlySunny

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Originally Posted by Azpilot06

I believe this video was recorded around January, before the hiring stopped. I'd imagine once hiring does resume that the standards will remain competitive. I've heard this is the case at most places now.

03-10-2024, 12:45 PM

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What's this about not using flaps for drag? Is that SOP or more of a technique thing?

03-10-2024, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Turbosina

What's this about not using flaps for drag? Is that SOP or more of a technique thing?

they flew the classic 250 knots to the marker so this is the modern day version of that .

03-10-2024, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Turbosina

What's this about not using flaps for drag? Is that SOP or more of a technique thing?

Ask Flap Mafia….. flaps are NOT DRAG DEVICES…….

03-10-2024, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinchacabron

Ask Flap Mafia….. flaps are NOT DRAG DEVICES…….

The flap policy is currently being reviewed. Apparently it was the pet project of a seagull who saw fit to make sure it ended up in the book. Many in standards do not like it. Some celebrate it.
From a RRM perspective it has no value added.

03-10-2024, 05:08 PM

#317

at6d

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Originally Posted by e6bpilot

…or from actually being an aviator.

03-10-2024, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Turbosina

What's this about not using flaps for drag? Is that SOP or more of a technique thing?

in the past pilots used flaps to slow down at 250kts. Boeing has put out a recommendation to bot put out flaps until within 10kts of next flaps speed.

03-10-2024, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by hoover

in the past pilots used flaps to slow down at 250kts. Boeing has put out a recommendation to bot put out flaps until within 10kts of next flaps speed.

less than

Airbus been doing this forever.

03-10-2024, 10:36 PM

#320

Jetlikespeed

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Originally Posted by Liberty

That’s what they do by their nature. But CKA carrying the water on flap extension is really sad… Has anyone ever heard of this at any other organization? SWA was my first introduction this strange view of flap usage.

Hi all Alaska guy coming in peace former airbus now Boeing

airbus we used flaps as drag to help slow down (crazy I know)

in the Boeing they don’t want us to use flaps as drag same it seems you guys they’d rather us use hear than flaps blows my mind. They are honest at least they says it’s less wear on flap fairings and motor?¿ says it saves them money allegedly

Maybe some dorks at Boeing ran the numbers and saves .00000000000002 cents

no idea but yes they hate using flaps as drag here too