View Poll Results: AA or SWA
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48.88%
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114
51.12%
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SWA or AA?
02-18-2024, 10:17 AM
#161
Line Holder
Joined APC: Sep 2019
Posts: 66
Been here 1.5 years, never flown a 5 leg day and maybe flown 4 two or three times. Has nothing to do with being senior. I fly almost exclusively high credit 2 and 3 days. Haven’t worked a holiday or weekend I wanted off. No one actually knows how good the schedules are unless you work here. It’s incredibly easy to get 18 days off. If you know the contract and are good with ELITT and vacation drop, you can definitely average 20 off here.
02-18-2024, 10:26 AM
#162
Strike averted!
Joined APC: Mar 2015
Position: B737
Posts: 3,821
It is absurd. You’re comparing your experience from 17-24 years ago with AMR during the lost decade which included major events that will be read by our children in history class (9/11, Financial crisis).
The culture of negativity you described from
20 years ago does not exists at AAL today. I’ve experienced nothing close to what you’ve described.
The culture of negativity you described from
20 years ago does not exists at AAL today. I’ve experienced nothing close to what you’ve described.
It’s the reason I didn’t apply to AA later on. Therefore, to me, it’s not absurd at all.
I got on with SWA in 2015. I’m happy where I am. I’m glad you are happy where you are.
02-18-2024, 10:47 AM
#163
Banned
Joined APC: Jan 2021
Posts: 1,164
When I post that article again in a few years it won’t say United in fourth place anymore. That will be Southwest’s new spot. That’s your future SWA Kool-Aid boy.
02-18-2024, 10:52 AM
#164
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: Window seat
Posts: 5,527
Mid 2015 newhire is 8200 of 15,900 pilots. 52%. 737 CA? 52% system wide. 737 FO? 6%. That's a big reason guys went to AA. 787 FO? 75%. 787 CA? Maybe 2031?
02-18-2024, 11:04 AM
#165
Gets Weekend Reserve
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Posts: 3,794
That's roughly the same overall seniority percentage he's at here at SWA being a 2015 hire. What's your point? WB flying? Not everyone's cup of tea. Bases? Job security? Balance sheet? Or how about something simpler.... one of the main reasons companies choose not to hire people is because a candidate wouldn't be a good fit for the company for whatever reason. Is it hard to imagine that some people may feel the same way about the company?
02-18-2024, 11:06 AM
#166
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2020
Posts: 116
Is this some weird coping mechanism for you? does believing that help you sleep better at night SWA fan boy? I get it, you’re still living in the past when Southwest was growing. Now you’re losing market share and considered a touch and go airline for the Big 3. You’re a basically an afterthought to the new pilots entering the industry.
When I post that article again in a few years it won’t say United in fourth place anymore. That will be Southwest’s new spot. That’s your future SWA Kool-Aid boy.
When I post that article again in a few years it won’t say United in fourth place anymore. That will be Southwest’s new spot. That’s your future SWA Kool-Aid boy.
02-18-2024, 11:07 AM
#167
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: Window seat
Posts: 5,527
02-18-2024, 11:13 AM
#168
Banned
Joined APC: Jan 2021
Posts: 1,164
I have no idea what this means lmao. Is that suppose to be a joke? If this some lame Delta hat joke? Tbh SWA pilots should be required to wear a hat and jacket because all the SWA pilots walking around ATL look like they just woke up from a 3 day bender. You make the profession look like we’re flying plumbers, which I’m sure is why you earned that nickname from management.
02-18-2024, 11:15 AM
#169
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: Window seat
Posts: 5,527
That's roughly the same overall seniority percentage he's at here at SWA being a 2015 hire. What's your point? WB flying? Not everyone's cup of tea. Bases? Job security? Balance sheet? Or how about something simpler.... one of the main reasons companies choose not to hire people is because a candidate wouldn't be a good fit for the company for whatever reason. Is it hard to imagine that some people may feel the same way about the company?
His n/b relative seniority will accelerate as a greater percentage of the guys senior to him transition to w/b flying. That's a factor when you compare a purely n/b final seniority progression vs a seniority progession that includes w/b flying. If you only want to fly n/b 85-90% of the guys senior to you will leave the n/b flying. So retiring as #2000 will even more senior as a n/b CA. Current #2000 is #149 system wide as a 737 CA.
02-18-2024, 11:21 AM
#170
Strike averted!
Joined APC: Mar 2015
Position: B737
Posts: 3,821
From my perspective, I’m in a good spot. The only greener grass I’ll be chasing is a prospective BNA bid, my car project (not a Miata) and a better exercise routine (ok starting one anyway).
We make choices with the options and info we have at that time, and we will know how we fared the day we retire.
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