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#71
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Boeing hasnt prioritized a fix because they thought they had two years to get it done. My guess is they have a fix ready for the -7 (and all varients for that matter) within a year from now.
#72
Ahh, so you think we live in a fantasy land a 100% free market is possible. Even if that ideology is correct, it would require so many fundamental changes to society that it will never happen. Our version of a free market has failed. Boeing screwed up with MCAS, caused over 300 people to die, grounded the fleet for years, and cost investors and stakeholders billions of dollars. You would think that would be enough of a shock to the system to cause major changes within Boeing. Yet just a few years later, Boeing is more concerned about getting out of the financial hole the Max grounding caused and is focusing its energy on increasing production rates rather than ensuring quality. So yeah, right now an FAA inspector overlooking the assembly of every 737 would probably be a good thing.
There needs to be some major leadership change on Boeing at every level before they can be trusted again. We can't rely on the free market to force that change. Wall Street knows there are no other competitors in the world. If a company wants to switch its orders from Boeing to Airbus, it will take a decade. That's not a realist competitor. So there are no free market forces capable of improving the situation. If you actually want a more competitive aviation market, then you should be happy the FAA is getting involved. They are the only ones that can actually punish Boeing. That will make Boeing a less capable manufacturer. They will lose market share and allow room for other manufacturers to expand and maybe grow to a point where they can offer a realistic third option.
There needs to be some major leadership change on Boeing at every level before they can be trusted again. We can't rely on the free market to force that change. Wall Street knows there are no other competitors in the world. If a company wants to switch its orders from Boeing to Airbus, it will take a decade. That's not a realist competitor. So there are no free market forces capable of improving the situation. If you actually want a more competitive aviation market, then you should be happy the FAA is getting involved. They are the only ones that can actually punish Boeing. That will make Boeing a less capable manufacturer. They will lose market share and allow room for other manufacturers to expand and maybe grow to a point where they can offer a realistic third option.
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#74
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SWA prepared to wait..
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/southwest-airlines-not-looking-shift-173317726.html
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/southwest-airlines-not-looking-shift-173317726.html
#75
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Ahh, so you think we live in a fantasy land a 100% free market is possible. Even if that ideology is correct, it would require so many fundamental changes to society that it will never happen. Our version of a free market has failed. Boeing screwed up with MCAS, caused over 300 people to die, grounded the fleet for years, and cost investors and stakeholders billions of dollars. You would think that would be enough of a shock to the system to cause major changes within Boeing. Yet just a few years later, Boeing is more concerned about getting out of the financial hole the Max grounding caused and is focusing its energy on increasing production rates rather than ensuring quality. So yeah, right now an FAA inspector overlooking the assembly of every 737 would probably be a good thing.
There needs to be some major leadership change on Boeing at every level before they can be trusted again. We can't rely on the free market to force that change. Wall Street knows there are no other competitors in the world. If a company wants to switch its orders from Boeing to Airbus, it will take a decade. That's not a realist competitor. So there are no free market forces capable of improving the situation. If you actually want a more competitive aviation market, then you should be happy the FAA is getting involved. They are the only ones that can actually punish Boeing. That will make Boeing a less capable manufacturer. They will lose market share and allow room for other manufacturers to expand and maybe grow to a point where they can offer a realistic third option.
There needs to be some major leadership change on Boeing at every level before they can be trusted again. We can't rely on the free market to force that change. Wall Street knows there are no other competitors in the world. If a company wants to switch its orders from Boeing to Airbus, it will take a decade. That's not a realist competitor. So there are no free market forces capable of improving the situation. If you actually want a more competitive aviation market, then you should be happy the FAA is getting involved. They are the only ones that can actually punish Boeing. That will make Boeing a less capable manufacturer. They will lose market share and allow room for other manufacturers to expand and maybe grow to a point where they can offer a realistic third option.
I agree with you about the challenges of the free market in this environment. Boeing and Airbus are practically branches of the American and French government, which is why we are in this problem. It would be nice if we had the competition of the business jet market. They are leaps and bounds ahead of us here at the airlines.
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#80
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United has 150 787s on order and we can’t even get our next one until September. They are putting out about 4 a month right now worldwide. I think a new customer could expect to get a plane in 2032, which is probably the next delivery spot for a new customer. Maybe someone is selling used 787s?
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