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01-25-2024, 08:10 PM
#41
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You guys crack me up. How long have you worked here?
They will extend the life of the 700s a la the good old classic fleet. They will renegotiate their deal with Boeing via veiled threats and a trip to Mobile Downtown airport, and then we will be flying the Max 7 when it finally appears.
They are taking Max 8 deliveries in lieu of and making a killing on that deal. SWA and Boeing are tied together for life. There will be no other fleet until after the last 737 rolls off the Renton floor.
SWA is in a sustained period of taking lumps in the earnings department in order to build the fleet, network, and technology infrastructure that they need to be competitive over the coming decades. This is yet another blow, but it is not a big deal at all. This airline will be insanely profitable again in the future with an all 737 fleet.
I am a complete cynic, but I am also a realist. The efficiencies that SWA gains by being a single fleet airline are huge.
They will extend the life of the 700s a la the good old classic fleet. They will renegotiate their deal with Boeing via veiled threats and a trip to Mobile Downtown airport, and then we will be flying the Max 7 when it finally appears.
They are taking Max 8 deliveries in lieu of and making a killing on that deal. SWA and Boeing are tied together for life. There will be no other fleet until after the last 737 rolls off the Renton floor.
SWA is in a sustained period of taking lumps in the earnings department in order to build the fleet, network, and technology infrastructure that they need to be competitive over the coming decades. This is yet another blow, but it is not a big deal at all. This airline will be insanely profitable again in the future with an all 737 fleet.
I am a complete cynic, but I am also a realist. The efficiencies that SWA gains by being a single fleet airline are huge.
01-26-2024, 02:04 AM
#43
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Joined APC: Jan 2016
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Posts: 1,254
You guys crack me up. How long have you worked here?
They will extend the life of the 700s a la the good old classic fleet. They will renegotiate their deal with Boeing via veiled threats and a trip to Mobile Downtown airport, and then we will be flying the Max 7 when it finally appears.
They are taking Max 8 deliveries in lieu of and making a killing on that deal. SWA and Boeing are tied together for life. There will be no other fleet until after the last 737 rolls off the Renton floor.
SWA is in a sustained period of taking lumps in the earnings department in order to build the fleet, network, and technology infrastructure that they need to be competitive over the coming decades. This is yet another blow, but it is not a big deal at all. This airline will be insanely profitable again in the future with an all 737 fleet.
I am a complete cynic, but I am also a realist. The efficiencies that SWA gains by being a single fleet airline are huge.
They will extend the life of the 700s a la the good old classic fleet. They will renegotiate their deal with Boeing via veiled threats and a trip to Mobile Downtown airport, and then we will be flying the Max 7 when it finally appears.
They are taking Max 8 deliveries in lieu of and making a killing on that deal. SWA and Boeing are tied together for life. There will be no other fleet until after the last 737 rolls off the Renton floor.
SWA is in a sustained period of taking lumps in the earnings department in order to build the fleet, network, and technology infrastructure that they need to be competitive over the coming decades. This is yet another blow, but it is not a big deal at all. This airline will be insanely profitable again in the future with an all 737 fleet.
I am a complete cynic, but I am also a realist. The efficiencies that SWA gains by being a single fleet airline are huge.
This place is much closer to BK than you think . You may want to get your house in order .
01-26-2024, 05:30 AM
#45
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You guys crack me up. How long have you worked here?
They will extend the life of the 700s a la the good old classic fleet. They will renegotiate their deal with Boeing via veiled threats and a trip to Mobile Downtown airport, and then we will be flying the Max 7 when it finally appears.
They are taking Max 8 deliveries in lieu of and making a killing on that deal. SWA and Boeing are tied together for life. There will be no other fleet until after the last 737 rolls off the Renton floor.
SWA is in a sustained period of taking lumps in the earnings department in order to build the fleet, network, and technology infrastructure that they need to be competitive over the coming decades. This is yet another blow, but it is not a big deal at all. This airline will be insanely profitable again in the future with an all 737 fleet.
I am a complete cynic, but I am also a realist. The efficiencies that SWA gains by being a single fleet airline are huge.
They will extend the life of the 700s a la the good old classic fleet. They will renegotiate their deal with Boeing via veiled threats and a trip to Mobile Downtown airport, and then we will be flying the Max 7 when it finally appears.
They are taking Max 8 deliveries in lieu of and making a killing on that deal. SWA and Boeing are tied together for life. There will be no other fleet until after the last 737 rolls off the Renton floor.
SWA is in a sustained period of taking lumps in the earnings department in order to build the fleet, network, and technology infrastructure that they need to be competitive over the coming decades. This is yet another blow, but it is not a big deal at all. This airline will be insanely profitable again in the future with an all 737 fleet.
I am a complete cynic, but I am also a realist. The efficiencies that SWA gains by being a single fleet airline are huge.
It’s obvious that rightly so the FAA and general public want Boeing’s head to roll and have an ax to grind with them, so I wouldn’t rule that out.
An engine cowling being shed due to the anti-ice being left on isn’t that far fetched. If it results in a crash the general public fueled by the media will go absolutely ballistic and create a ton of pressure to ground *ALL* MAXes as they all have the composite lip. The FAA already has it out for Boeing and now Spirit Aerospace.
For a bunch of supposedly really smart people it sure is dumb of SWA upper management and BOD to keep doubling down on putting all our eggs in the MAX basket.
01-26-2024, 05:52 AM
#46
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Just one question…..what happens when the MAX8s get grounded for yet another Boeing f__k up? What if that’s two years or more down the road and our fleet is composed of a larger percentage of them?
It’s obvious that rightly so the FAA and general public want Boeing’s head to roll and have an ax to grind with them, so I wouldn’t rule that out.
An engine cowling being shed due to the anti-ice being left on isn’t that far fetched. If it results in a crash the general public fueled by the media will go absolutely ballistic and create a ton of pressure to ground *ALL* MAXes as they all have the composite lip. The FAA already has it out for Boeing and now Spirit Aerospace.
For a bunch of supposedly really smart people it sure is dumb of SWA upper management and BOD to keep doubling down on putting all our eggs in the MAX basket.
It’s obvious that rightly so the FAA and general public want Boeing’s head to roll and have an ax to grind with them, so I wouldn’t rule that out.
An engine cowling being shed due to the anti-ice being left on isn’t that far fetched. If it results in a crash the general public fueled by the media will go absolutely ballistic and create a ton of pressure to ground *ALL* MAXes as they all have the composite lip. The FAA already has it out for Boeing and now Spirit Aerospace.
For a bunch of supposedly really smart people it sure is dumb of SWA upper management and BOD to keep doubling down on putting all our eggs in the MAX basket.
01-26-2024, 06:06 AM
#47
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Joined APC: Jan 2016
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Posts: 1,254
Just one question…..what happens when the MAX8s get grounded for yet another Boeing f__k up? What if that’s two years or more down the road and our fleet is composed of a larger percentage of them?
It’s obvious that rightly so the FAA and general public want Boeing’s head to roll and have an ax to grind with them, so I wouldn’t rule that out.
An engine cowling being shed due to the anti-ice being left on isn’t that far fetched. If it results in a crash the general public fueled by the media will go absolutely ballistic and create a ton of pressure to ground *ALL* MAXes as they all have the composite lip. The FAA already has it out for Boeing and now Spirit Aerospace.
For a bunch of supposedly really smart people it sure is dumb of SWA upper management and BOD to keep doubling down on putting all our eggs in the MAX basket.
It’s obvious that rightly so the FAA and general public want Boeing’s head to roll and have an ax to grind with them, so I wouldn’t rule that out.
An engine cowling being shed due to the anti-ice being left on isn’t that far fetched. If it results in a crash the general public fueled by the media will go absolutely ballistic and create a ton of pressure to ground *ALL* MAXes as they all have the composite lip. The FAA already has it out for Boeing and now Spirit Aerospace.
For a bunch of supposedly really smart people it sure is dumb of SWA upper management and BOD to keep doubling down on putting all our eggs in the MAX basket.
One man to thank for that. SWA has some awesome talent in upper management. Sadly, one man with his puppet are controlling all the strings.
01-26-2024, 06:17 AM
#48
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Joined APC: Jul 2007
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Just one question…..what happens when the MAX8s get grounded for yet another Boeing f__k up? What if that’s two years or more down the road and our fleet is composed of a larger percentage of them?
It’s obvious that rightly so the FAA and general public want Boeing’s head to roll and have an ax to grind with them, so I wouldn’t rule that out.
An engine cowling being shed due to the anti-ice being left on isn’t that far fetched. If it results in a crash the general public fueled by the media will go absolutely ballistic and create a ton of pressure to ground *ALL* MAXes as they all have the composite lip. The FAA already has it out for Boeing and now Spirit Aerospace.
For a bunch of supposedly really smart people it sure is dumb of SWA upper management and BOD to keep doubling down on putting all our eggs in the MAX basket.
It’s obvious that rightly so the FAA and general public want Boeing’s head to roll and have an ax to grind with them, so I wouldn’t rule that out.
An engine cowling being shed due to the anti-ice being left on isn’t that far fetched. If it results in a crash the general public fueled by the media will go absolutely ballistic and create a ton of pressure to ground *ALL* MAXes as they all have the composite lip. The FAA already has it out for Boeing and now Spirit Aerospace.
For a bunch of supposedly really smart people it sure is dumb of SWA upper management and BOD to keep doubling down on putting all our eggs in the MAX basket.
They keep hiding behind the "well, if we half a split fleet, we're still affected if there's an issue." They may have a point there. Imagine if we "diversified" and got A321neo's a few years back, along with MAX 7's... and now we've got multiple problems across the fleet.
I may be a bit of a conspiracy theorist here, but anyone remember the hardover rudder problem that plagued earlier 737's? Did we ground the fleet over it? Did we de-certify or purposefully drag out the certifications of other variants?
Hell, MAX 7 (never certified) was used to re-certify MAX 8 (already been certified), but 3+ years later, MAX 7 isn't certified. Seriously?! Boeing absolutely needs to get their house in order, but is the "new" standard "nothing must ever malfunction... ever" or are the new safety standards for certification no clickbait-paid news and clickbait hit-pieces?
01-26-2024, 06:27 AM
#49
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Posts: 1,597
This is not true. This lie spread like a good old game of kindergarten telephone…
United did not cancel their Max 10’s
United did not drop Max 10’s from their fleet plans
United is simply developing an alternate fleet plan without the Max 10 incase something happens in the future. It’s a backup plan that most likely won’t ever get used.
United did not cancel their Max 10’s
United did not drop Max 10’s from their fleet plans
United is simply developing an alternate fleet plan without the Max 10 incase something happens in the future. It’s a backup plan that most likely won’t ever get used.
01-26-2024, 07:17 AM
#50
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Joined APC: Jan 2021
Posts: 1,157
This is not true. This lie spread like a good old game of kindergarten telephone…
United did not cancel their Max 10’s
United did not drop Max 10’s from their fleet plans
United is simply developing an alternate fleet plan without the Max 10 incase something happens in the future. It’s a backup plan that most likely won’t ever get used.
United did not cancel their Max 10’s
United did not drop Max 10’s from their fleet plans
United is simply developing an alternate fleet plan without the Max 10 incase something happens in the future. It’s a backup plan that most likely won’t ever get used.
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