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12-14-2023, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by flyguy81

Quit being melodramatic. This place isn’t going anywhere. Too big to fail now.

we are definitely not. Look at how we are slowing growth when everyone else is expanding. That’s a big red flag. They run scared here and it’s no way to do business.

12-14-2023, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by hoover

unfortunately it would be a long slow death robbing us of the ability to reap the benefits of senority in our senior yrs. Hopefully it doesnt happen, but look at Hawaiian. 90 yrs and they are now for all intense and purpose gone.
WN is 55 yrs young. A blip in aviation history . All that will be said is " I liked the hot pants"

Already lived this once... The awakening is gonna be RUDE.

12-14-2023, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Traffic Alert

we are definitely not. Look at how we are slowing growth when everyone else is expanding. That’s a big red flag. They run scared here and it’s no way to do business.

Less to do with being scared and more to do with all growth based on a unicorn jet that should’ve been here 2-3 yrs ago.

12-14-2023, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by flyguy81

Less to do with being scared and more to do with all growth based on a unicorn jet that should’ve been here 2-3 yrs ago.

In any line of business.. If you're waiting on a one trick pony to succeed, you are destined to fail.

Just read that they plan to hire only 800 now next year. That's almost half of what was projected.

12-14-2023, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by flyguy81

Quit being melodramatic. This place isn’t going anywhere. Too big to fail now.

Wanna bet? We can have a different version of Eeyore’s Hard 8 BBQ extravaganza at a soup kitchen in Jackson Miss if I win. Where do you wanna eat if your unicorn stumbles out of the magic wardrobe, dragging a rainbow colored tapeworm of rolled-up thousand-dollar bills?

12-14-2023, 02:31 PM

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Before or after attrition? Maybe they’re starting to see reality and have figured out the pyramid was built on quicksand.

12-14-2023, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Standbyzeros

I'm not betting anything on that thing. Should've been approved the same time as the Max -8.....you know, considering the -7 was used to recertify the -8. Lol

12-14-2023, 02:39 PM

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Before or after attrition? Maybe they’re starting to see reality and have figured out the pyramid was built on quicksand.

Not sure tbh.. They are also only planning 350 upgrades. Pretty weak considering UAL is hiring Street captains.

12-14-2023, 02:40 PM

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Not sure tbh.. They are also only planning 350 upgrades. Pretty weak considering UAL is hiring Street captains.

Hadnt heard this yet. Where did you hear it? Leadership brief?

12-14-2023, 02:43 PM

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Not sure tbh.. They are also only planning 350 upgrades. Pretty weak considering UAL is hiring Street captains.

Had drinks with a UAL guy yesterday and he said it's surprising to see it happening but not shocking that 7k FO's want nothing to do with it. Their new RSV rules haven't been implemented yet and he didn't think it changed enough to move the needle for people to jump on the upgrade train.

Would be nice to see something official for NH/UG next year though.