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11-16-2023, 02:28 AM

#131

Cyio

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Originally Posted by ElonMusk

If pilots would stop being dispatchers, ops agents, fuelers, baggage handlers and scheduling and etc we would have this signed, sealed and delivered by now. Just look at the guys picking up OT as soon as it’s offered….thank them. TTGA or nothing at all IMO. You help the company…you are the problem. Just do your job.

Watched a CA last week run up and down the jetway stairs hauling strollers. When I say run I mean it. Worst part was it wasn’t due to inactivity of the rampers as they also were brining some up, he just had to show the warrior spirit.

This isn’t the old days anymore.

11-16-2023, 02:40 AM

#132

WHACKMASTER

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Position: DOWNGRADE COMPLETE: Thanks Gary. Thanks SWAPA.

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Originally Posted by Palmtree Pilot

It's simple, just put in 3% yearly COLA continue after the amendable date. After the last 2 contract negotiations, I would not expect the next one to all the sudden be early and civilized so adding that in should be a given.

3% COLA would’ve had us falling WAY behind inflation these last few years. Unacceptable. This is why it’s absolutely critical we get full retro.

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11-16-2023, 05:38 AM

#133

Caveman

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Position: American Airlines Brake Pad Replacement Technician

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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan

Stop trying to make sprinkle happen.

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I know, I know, I gotta let the sprinkles go...Sprinklers gonna Sprinkle!

Engage your BOD reps!

11-16-2023, 06:23 AM

#134

ElonMusk

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It truly amazes me the Battered Wife Syndrome alive and well at Southwest. Management laughs at them, they mock them, they encourage the “warrior spirit” then dilute every single benefit they get yet these pilot keep smiling going the extra mile. It’s the wife that gets hit with an uppercut a few times “Oh he still loves me, he cares. He is just frustrated because it is outside of his control. He will not do it again. It’s my fault” stop deluding yourself.

Just like that lady who finally leaves her abusive husband, sometimes you have to step back and take a small financial hit in the short term to gain long term rewards. Stop Bob from abusing you, he doesn’t love you, he mocks you. Gary likens you to a plumber and yet OT is picked up. [MOD EDIT]

Southwest is the enemy, treat them as such.

Last edited by rickair7777; 11-16-2023 at 08:02 AM. Reason: Wildcat

11-16-2023, 10:22 AM

#135

PowerShift

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Originally Posted by at6d

A lot of former corporate guys are also Lost Decade folks. Like me. I did seven years at the regionals and bailed to corporate in 2007 until 2015.

We may be “can do” types…but we ain’t all stupid. Don’t forget those “can do” military guys! Harrumph

Same story. I remember what pilots were paid in the late 90's. No military pension here and **** poor wages for the lost 14 yrs, 2002-2016.

This contract has to pay, if not there are way better paying corp gigs. Take your TFP and divide it by your duty day, that's what you are paid for an hour of your life's time. This airline is far from "gentlemanly".

If I'm offered Deltal rates, then I want all the other accoutrements that are in the delta contract, then I will consider. If not, then pay me more then Delta. If my going without a meal and coming home from a 4 day exhausted saves the company money, then I expect to share in those savings. That's not greedy or unfair. SWA is an animal all alone in comparison.