6packSteamJedi

What's the point in even sending a TA out to the group without fixing hotels and transportation? Seems like a lot of hard work is going to be flushed.

Grease5667

Apparently, the hotel situation wasn't a big enough issue when the original polling was done. I have my suspicions many (including myself) think its a big issue now. An eventual TA will have to be stellar in other areas for me to overlook this issue. Our hotels have steadily declined over the last several years. This is not by accident. I just can't wrap my head around why many don't see this as a major quality of life issue.

ZapBrannigan

Has anybody seen this email the FAs are passing around telling each other to delay voting until after Dec 1 to see what we get and try to hitch their wagon to ours? Also something about a gag order that I didn't understand.

One of our FAs was trying to explain it today and I didn't really wrap my head around what she was telling me.

RJSAviator76

I guess we disagree. I don't see this as helping the company as much as I see this helping individuals achieve whatever it is they want to achieve, be it strike fund, be it Aston Martin, a lake house, or a kid in college. Our contract is structured to incentivize working more. I didn't write it that way, but I'm forced to play within the confines of it. I used to work for an airline where there was no such thing as OT as any extra flying went to ALPA bank. In other words, we were effectively salaried. I actually prefer our way over the socialist ALPA way.

Want to structure our contract that way? Poll it and see if there's support for it. But I will say this... Casey and Jody both say build up your strike fund and go out and fly. It serves two-fold purposes: 1) Indeed, build your strike fund. 2) Don't give the company any excuse to go after us for an illegal job action by changing our behavior.

By all means, I'm not gonna slam you if you choose to stay away from this dumpster fire, not wanting to get rerouted, or messed with in any way. I also won't pick on those who choose to pick up and work more. Different strokes and having a choice is a beautiful thing.

As for TTGA, you must be an FO, which seems to be a completely different market. Way more in TTGA for FO's than CA's. And speaking of TTGA, I wish that was the only kind of extra flying available over one's vacation, if we were to allow any kind of flying over vacation blocks to begin with... But that's just me.

hoover

haven't seen an email but I did have an FA tell me they were waiting to see what we got to "me too" it, without me even asking or talking about their TA.

golfandflows

Other than per diem , FA’s should be comparing their TA to other airline FA’s contracts . NOT pilots. Period end of story.

ElonMusk

This is the problem right here…you don’t see that covering OT is not helping the company? Using your rational if someone wants a new car they can cross a picket line. IMO there is no difference between helping the company before or after a strike if we are in year 4 of talks. My line is 12 months. No help after 12 months of talks, if a company doesn’t respect its employees to get a new contract by then, it’s game on.

We can disagree….if I fly with you I will call you out on it. We can discuss it then.

mulcher

Yup and not surprised by the response after.

dmcaso

Yep. So sick of flying with guys that tell me how they picked a trip up from OT, then 5 minutes later start *****ing about the delay in a contract. I honestly don’t even know how to explain it if they are doing that. I can’t make it make sense for you….

hoover

call someone out on it to what end?
let them know your opinion then drop it or get out of the plane and go home?
Hopefully the first one as no one should be showing up with that much animosity.
for me I'll do what the union tells me and let my dues work for me