Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Major > Southwest
Christmas gift from Boeing - Max 7 >

Christmas gift from Boeing - Max 7

Search

Notices

Christmas gift from Boeing - Max 7

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-10-2023, 01:55 PM
  #1  
Gets Weekends Off
Thread Starter
 
Joined APC: Apr 2019
Posts: 341
Default Christmas gift from Boeing - Max 7

Exclusive: Southwest Airlines expects certification of Boeing's 737 MAX 7 by April - company exec

Rajesh Kumar SinghNovember 10, 20233:44 PM CSTUpdated an hour agoA Boeing 737 MAX sits outside the hangar during a media tour of the Boeing 737 MAX at the Boeing plant in Renton, Washington December 8, 2015. REUTERS/Matt Mills McKnight/File Photo Acquire Licensing Rights
CHICAGO, Nov 10 (Reuters) - Southwest Airlines (LUV.N) expects Boeing's (BA.N) 737 MAX 7 plane will get certification from the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration by April, allowing the carrier to start flying the aircraft in October and November 2024, a company executive told Reuters.

Dallas-based Southwest is the largest customer of the plane, the smallest model in Boeing's MAX family. Last month, it unveiled new orders for an additional 108 MAX 7 planes for deliveries through 2031.

Advertisement · Scroll to continue"For our internal planning purposes, we assume it'll be certified in April and then flying for us in the October-November time frame," Andrew Watterson, chief operating officer at Southwest, said in an interview late Thursday.

He said, however, that the April estimate includes a buffer and certification could still happen this year or in early 2024 as Boeing is making progress with the FAA resolving open items on certification. "We don't want a delay to affect our plans so we put padding in there," Watterson said.

Advertisement · Scroll to continue"We're getting closer and closer," Watterson said of the certification work. "We're towards the end here."

Boeing has said it expects MAX 7 certification by the end of this year. In October, company executives said its schedule remained unchanged, with CEO Dave Calhoun saying the company will give the FAA "all the flexibility they need" to make the call.

A Boeing spokesperson declined to comment further.

Advertisement · Scroll to continueThe MAX 7 is expected to provide Southwest flexibility to adjust capacity to suit demand as passenger traffic tends to vary depending on the time of day and the day of the week.

However, delays in certification have forced Southwest to convert dozens of orders for 150-seater MAX 7 aircraft into the larger 175-seater MAX 8 variant.

The Federal Aviation Administration, which did not immediately comment Friday, has repeatedly declined to comment on the timing of the MAX 7 certification, saying "safety dictates the timeline of certification projects."

MAX planes were grounded worldwide following two crashes in 2018 and 2019 that killed 346 people.

Both the MAX 7 and the largest model MAX 10 are waiting for the FAA's certification, with MAX 10 slated for its first delivery in 2024. They are seen as critical for Boeing to compete against Airbus (AIR.PA) for orders at the top and bottom of the narrowbody markets.

"The fact that the number of open items is converging, not diverging like it was probably a year ago, shows that they're getting closer and closer," Watterson said.

Some analysts and industry officials say flying a bigger plane with more seats in a domestic market that is already flooded with excess capacity is hurting Southwest's profits.

Watterson, however, disagreed with that view. He said the airline has a decent balance of big and smaller aircraft to match supply and demand.

"If we were like 80 big aircraft, 20 smaller aircraft that would be a problem, but we're 50-50 right now," he said. "So, we have plenty of latitude."

Reporting by Rajesh Kumar Singh and David Shepardson; Additional reporting by Valerie Insinna in Washington; editing by Diane Craft

Our Standards: The Thomson Reuters Trust Principles.

Acquire Licensing Rights
docav8tor is offline  
Old 11-10-2023, 02:00 PM
  #2  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Sep 2015
Posts: 280
Default

Just two weeks ago they said with certainty that certification would be done by the end of the year. Now it's already slipped yet again to April and that's supposed to be good news? The Company claimed they'd be up and flying in the schedule by June. Now it's October or November 2024? Why don't I believe them?
Salukidawg is offline  
Old 11-10-2023, 02:06 PM
  #3  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jun 2014
Posts: 188
Default

Christmas is in December. Not April.
Fuseplug is offline  
Old 11-10-2023, 02:19 PM
  #4  
Gets Weekends Off
Thread Starter
 
Joined APC: Apr 2019
Posts: 341
Default

They'll want to get the contracts settled for the growth and expansion they have planned. Let's hope it pushes them to get it done.
docav8tor is offline  
Old 11-10-2023, 03:45 PM
  #5  
Gets Weekends Off
 
CA1900's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jul 2008
Posts: 843
Default

Remember... It's not a lie, if you believe it.
CA1900 is offline  
Old 11-11-2023, 04:43 AM
  #6  
Gets Weekends Off
 
gipple's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2009
Posts: 310
Default

A clean sheet narrowbody 15 years ago would already have been flying revenue 10 years ago. Boeing has lost the plot.
gipple is offline  
Old 11-11-2023, 04:54 AM
  #7  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Mar 2023
Posts: 253
Default

this is good news.. but I bet they are kicking themselves for not developing a 757 MAX. They have no answer for the XLR.
Traffic Alert is online now  
Old 11-11-2023, 05:16 AM
  #8  
Gets Weekends Off
 
drywhitetoast's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jun 2018
Position: Sitting
Posts: 508
Default

I have a feeling Santa will leave a lump of coal.
drywhitetoast is offline  
Old 11-12-2023, 03:38 PM
  #9  
Furloughed Again?!
 
ZapBrannigan's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: Boeing 737
Posts: 4,804
Default

A little elf told me Whack asked Santa for an A220 instead. 😏🎅

ZapBrannigan is offline  
Old 11-12-2023, 04:21 PM
  #10  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Mar 2016
Posts: 134
Default

Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
A little elf told me Whack asked Santa for an A220 instead. 😏🎅

BUT, how do we fly it like a 200???????
Pinchacabron is online now  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
docav8tor
Safety
0
11-13-2019 02:54 PM
docav8tor
Safety
4
09-26-2019 12:50 PM
docav8tor
Safety
10
09-24-2019 12:20 PM
docav8tor
Safety
0
09-24-2019 05:38 AM
docav8tor
Safety
6
08-02-2019 07:58 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices