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Old 10-30-2023, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Truman_Sparks
Parked after no deal in November, with sides being light years apart on pay and benefits.

Resume negotiations next April or May, with a TA NOV or DEC 24. TA1 voted down, and TA2 sometime in 25.
Fine with me. Block bidding is my jam.
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Old 10-30-2023, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Truman_Sparks
Parked after no deal in November, with sides being light years apart on pay and benefits.

Resume negotiations next April or May, with a TA NOV or DEC 24. TA1 voted down, and TA2 sometime in 25.
Benefits is already settled with “industry leading” agreed to. Settle down Captain Happy and wait for the language and the AIP to make an appearance.

I’m self-admittedly rather hot-headed but holy 🤬, some of you need to take a deep breath.

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Old 10-30-2023, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
Benefits is already settled with “industry leading” agreed to. Settle down Captain Happy and wait for the language and the AIP to make an appearance.

I’m self-admittedly rather hot-headed but holy 🤬, some of you need to take a deep breath.

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I agree. We will see the turd sooner than later.
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Old 10-30-2023, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyGuy2021
Surely you can't actually expect to get 767 rates to fly a 737 at a low cost airline, can you? Is this really what people are pushing for?
Limiting pay rates to airframe is straight from the management playbook on union busting.



The truth is this place is bringing in record revenue every quarter…..USING THE 737!

Only a fool limits themselves as you are suggesting.

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Old 10-30-2023, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna
Limiting pay rates to airframe is straight from the management playbook on union busting.



The truth is this place is bringing in record revenue every quarter…..USING THE 737!

Only a fool limits themselves as you are suggesting.

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We have plenty of fools that fall for it every contract.
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Old 10-30-2023, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
Benefits is already settled with “industry leading” agreed to. Settle down Captain Happy and wait for the language and the AIP to make an appearance.

I’m self-admittedly rather hot-headed but holy 🤬, some of you need to take a deep breath.

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Has nothing to do with hot headed. The thread was predictions. That’s my prediction. I obviously don’t know any more than you, but my belief is Gary won’t allow this to get done. But the mediator will see enough progress to park this. I also don’t think the first TA will be anywhere close on pay and benefits to get a yes vote.
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Old 10-30-2023, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Cyio
You’re nuts.
Shouldn't the word 'nuts' be capitalized and in quotes?
The koolies around here are going to revolt and accuse you of heresy.
A little more reverence is assumed.
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BTW, anyone going after the most productive pilot groups' rate expectations is an automatic suspect as a FordHarrison plant.
We are looking at *You* "FlyGuy2021"
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Old 10-31-2023, 02:46 PM
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This the FAs but you can bet SWApull has the same in its ranks. Maybe this is why some of us here are so adamant about educating the yessies.


🚨This was just sent to me… for your consideration~

Rumor has it … and it makes TOTAL sense now. After being such a huge bully and intimidating force in pushing the last TA through in favor of the company, Sam Wilkins is definitely the mole. The companies long term plan was set in motion over a few years back to get Sam Wilkins on the current union board. However, fortunately for us, but unfortunately for the company, the membership did NOT vote her in office. So, instead the company then “planted” her as a seed to start as a PAID contract “educator” for ALL new hires to turn to and build blind and loyal “trust” with. Supposedly, it was the company who strongly suggested and pressured the NT team to have Denny resign and replace her with Sam as to benefit them all in achieving getting a contract signed before their term runs out and a new board with a new NT gets voted in who is not in bed with the company. If the plan is a success, then Sam will be rewarded and placed with a higher up position in the company.

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Ask your domicile rep how many former SWAPA are in the negotiation room not just as SMEs for the Company, but who actively engage in negotiations on SWAs behalf

If you ask tough questions about this topic, and you get the Heisman response that its a small number, or not that big of deal or its unenforceable. You likely have touched that guys sacred cow exit plan after his current SWAPA grind. Watching that Individuals career path over time will tell you all you need to know.

It's ingrained in SWAPA culture. BOD is the only entity within SWAPA that will ever be able to fix this issue. No Exec will ever take this on.
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Old 11-03-2023, 09:17 AM
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It's been a minute...any one hear what's in the FA's TA?
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