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Old 10-29-2023, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Traffic Alert
Separate hotels aren’t needed. It’s nice to have crew to be social with.
Take an Uber and socialize with FAs all you want. Easy No vote. 👎
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Old 10-29-2023, 02:59 PM
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Take an Uber and socialize with FAs all you want. Easy No vote. 👎
AM or PM trip, doesn’t matter. I could care less about separate hotels as long as a standard is met. BUT, after the aircraft is secured from our end …. We bounce. If the FA’s have an issue with the inbound crew sitting at the gate waiting for their last few minutes before required to show to cover through passengers or the inbound crew refuses to help clean…. Not my issue. If we have the same hotel, “I’ll see you at the van in 5 or I’ll send it back”….. we aren’t on the same schedule and we shouldn’t act that way. There is an issue in the FA culture that they need to fix between themselves and I could care less.
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Old 10-29-2023, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Pinchacabron
AM or PM trip, doesn’t matter. I could care less about separate hotels as long as a standard is met. BUT, after the aircraft is secured from our end …. We bounce. If the FA’s have an issue with the inbound crew sitting at the gate waiting for their last few minutes before required to show to cover through passengers or the inbound crew refuses to help clean…. Not my issue. If we have the same hotel, “I’ll see you at the van in 5 or I’ll send it back”….. we aren’t on the same schedule and we shouldn’t act that way. There is an issue in the FA culture that they need to fix between themselves and I could care less.
This all day. I don't socialize with them but don't really care enough about them to banish them from my hotel. I just don't want to wait for them. Ever. They take forever to do seemingly small tasks. I waited 10 minutes for them to get to the top of the jetway after shutdown yesterday. What were they doing? Then there is always a slow walker. We are no longer allowrd
to deplane through pax? Naw dawg. I am not waiting 30 minutes for the next crew to saunter down.
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Old 10-29-2023, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by e6bpilot
This all day. I don't socialize with them but don't really care enough about them to banish them from my hotel. I just don't want to wait for them. Ever. They take forever to do seemingly small tasks. I waited 10 minutes for them to get to the top of the jetway after shutdown yesterday. What were they doing? Then there is always a slow walker. We are no longer allowrd
to deplane through pax? Naw dawg. I am not waiting 30 minutes for the next crew to saunter down.
the question is whether that alone is enough for you to vote NO on a CBA that otherwise checks all the boxes for you.
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Old 10-29-2023, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
the question is whether that alone is enough for you to vote NO on a CBA that otherwise checks all the boxes for you.
I think there will be enough poison pills in this TA, it may be hard to pass. Hotels for some, coterm, retro, rates, vac bidding, objectively industry leading STD/LTD(we will need to see what that means), all ancillary items etc.
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Old 10-29-2023, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
the question is whether that alone is enough for you to vote NO on a CBA that otherwise checks all the boxes for you.
I am reserving judgment for when I can read the whole thing.
Time is my currency. 20 minutes here, 30 minutes there adds up. At the end of a career, you can wait days for flight attendants. It's a big deal to me.
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Old 10-29-2023, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
the question is whether that alone is enough for you to vote NO on a CBA that otherwise checks all the boxes for you.
I'll read it all, obviously. But from hotels and co domiciles I'm a no. Unless everything else wows the poop out of me. However, I doubt it will.
I've contacted my reps and the NC and told them this already. From what I've been told I am not in the minority that we need way better gains than what we are hearing
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Old 10-29-2023, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by e6bpilot
This all day. I don't socialize with them but don't really care enough about them to banish them from my hotel. I just don't want to wait for them. Ever. They take forever to do seemingly small tasks. I waited 10 minutes for them to get to the top of the jetway after shutdown yesterday. What were they doing? Then there is always a slow walker. We are no longer allowrd
to deplane through pax? Naw dawg. I am not waiting 30 minutes for the next crew to saunter down.
I think everyone would agree, it’s not separate hotels that we all want, it’s not being hamstrung to the FA’s constantly.
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Old 10-29-2023, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
I ESPECIALLY can’t stand sitting in a crew van with my crew waiting for one more crew, only for someone to need a cab because we’re full. Seriously over that BS!
Sacramento. Every damn time.
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Old 10-29-2023, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by waterskisabersw
For those of you who are a no just based on no separate hotels, you might make the effort of calling your reps and asking them about it. Their answer might surprise.
What does that mean?
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