Small blessings
09-17-2023, 05:26 AM
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Small blessings
Since over the last several years we've dealt with more than our share of teething pains with the Max, and I among others have lamented the fact that our fleet lacked diversity, I figured I should be thankful for small blessings.
Pratt and Whitney announced that 650+ airplanes equipped with their GTF engine (Some A320 family NEO) would have to be grounded for 6-9 months(!) to address quality control issues. That's a global fleet the size of Ryan Air that will be parked for the better part of the year.
This, in part, may explain why Spirit revised their revenue forecasts so dramatically for Q3. Not sure if Frontier has any GTF engines on theirs. ALL of Hawaiian's A321 NEOs have the GTF engine.
So it's not a Max problem for a change. Phew!
Pratt and Whitney announced that 650+ airplanes equipped with their GTF engine (Some A320 family NEO) would have to be grounded for 6-9 months(!) to address quality control issues. That's a global fleet the size of Ryan Air that will be parked for the better part of the year.
This, in part, may explain why Spirit revised their revenue forecasts so dramatically for Q3. Not sure if Frontier has any GTF engines on theirs. ALL of Hawaiian's A321 NEOs have the GTF engine.
So it's not a Max problem for a change. Phew!
09-17-2023, 05:28 AM
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Since over the last several years we've dealt with more than our share of teething pains with the Max, and I among others have lamented the fact that our fleet lacked diversity, I figured I should be thankful for small blessings.
Pratt and Whitney announced that 650+ airplanes equipped with their GTF engine (Some A320 family NEO) would have to be grounded for 6-9 months(!) to address quality control issues. That's a global fleet the size of Ryan Air that will be parked for the better part of the year.
This, in part, may explain why Spirit revised their revenue forecasts so dramatically for Q3. Not sure if Frontier has any GTF engines on theirs.
So it's not a Max problem for a change. Phew!
Pratt and Whitney announced that 650+ airplanes equipped with their GTF engine (Some A320 family NEO) would have to be grounded for 6-9 months(!) to address quality control issues. That's a global fleet the size of Ryan Air that will be parked for the better part of the year.
This, in part, may explain why Spirit revised their revenue forecasts so dramatically for Q3. Not sure if Frontier has any GTF engines on theirs.
So it's not a Max problem for a change. Phew!
09-17-2023, 07:08 AM
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Since over the last several years we've dealt with more than our share of teething pains with the Max, and I among others have lamented the fact that our fleet lacked diversity, I figured I should be thankful for small blessings.
Pratt and Whitney announced that 650+ airplanes equipped with their GTF engine (Some A320 family NEO) would have to be grounded for 6-9 months(!) to address quality control issues. That's a global fleet the size of Ryan Air that will be parked for the better part of the year.
This, in part, may explain why Spirit revised their revenue forecasts so dramatically for Q3. Not sure if Frontier has any GTF engines on theirs. ALL of Hawaiian's A321 NEOs have the GTF engine.
So it's not a Max problem for a change. Phew!
Pratt and Whitney announced that 650+ airplanes equipped with their GTF engine (Some A320 family NEO) would have to be grounded for 6-9 months(!) to address quality control issues. That's a global fleet the size of Ryan Air that will be parked for the better part of the year.
This, in part, may explain why Spirit revised their revenue forecasts so dramatically for Q3. Not sure if Frontier has any GTF engines on theirs. ALL of Hawaiian's A321 NEOs have the GTF engine.
So it's not a Max problem for a change. Phew!
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09-17-2023, 10:09 AM
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09-17-2023, 12:26 PM
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weekends off? Nope...
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But this speaks directly to the point that adding a 2nd fleet type does not give SWA any fleet protection. It simply doubles the exposure to a crippling issue like this P&W engine issue. Fleet diversification doesn't show up until you have 5-6 fleet types, according to AW. An issue that grounds half your fleet is just as crippling whether it's 1 or 2 AC types.
09-17-2023, 01:59 PM
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But this speaks directly to the point that adding a 2nd fleet type does not give SWA any fleet protection. It simply doubles the exposure to a crippling issue like this P&W engine issue. Fleet diversification doesn't show up until you have 5-6 fleet types, according to AW. An issue that grounds half your fleet is just as crippling whether it's 1 or 2 AC types.
except if you need 787s
09-17-2023, 06:32 PM
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weekends off? Nope...
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