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Old 08-16-2023, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Cyio
Yeah PIT is always a strange place to fly into. Feels like hundreds of unused gates just sitting there, plus a huge terminal that is essentially a mall with few people.
After USAir pulled out, it's been a ghost town. It definitely wasn't that way before.

At least they FINALLY got rid of ramp control. They would always ensure that the only 2 airplanes moving within 100 miles of PIT would conflict, for absolutely no good reason other than to justify their existence, while entering and exiting the ramp. Good riddance.
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Old 08-16-2023, 09:22 AM
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Currently at B6 and live in BNA. Have just shy of 500 turbine with almost 2000 total. Is it worth it to still apply or will it be an automatic TBNT and lock the app for six months?
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Old 08-16-2023, 09:28 AM
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Those were union jobs. USAir employees ran ramp control at one time. (Mechanics also ran the deicing there for OT at one time). Not sure whether they gave ramp back to the city after the merger, but I’m guessing that’s why it held on as long as it did.

When the “new” terminal (it’ll always be the new one to me since I grew up in PIT) opened in around 1994 the “Air Mall” was heavily marketed to the surrounding community. Come do some shopping, have a meal, and pick up your family from their flight. They even validated parking. This was all pre 9/11 so anybody could go through security for shopping and dining. My wife and I even had our first date at the TGI Fridays in the terminal there. It was one of the first midfield terminals and a really unique model. Those escalators just past security used to go to the E gates, where there were three piers for USAir Express. Tons of gates for everything from Dash 8s, Saab 340s, Dornier 328, Beech 1900s, and Jetstream 31. Wasn’t big enough for RJs though so when they came on the scene and the turboprops were slowly retired it ultimately went away. During the British Airways/USAir partnership they brought in the Concorde for a demo flight. I remember my Dad took me out of school to go check it out. BA ran a 747 in there for quite some time too. PIT was an impressive hub in the mid-90s until USAir decided to close it down after the second bankruptcy.
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Old 08-16-2023, 09:50 AM
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they used the word “hub?”
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Old 08-16-2023, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer
All the more reasons the airports shouldn't be owned and operated by the government
Can't wait for privatized ATC too.
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Old 08-16-2023, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by gbo2
Currently at B6 and live in BNA. Have just shy of 500 turbine with almost 2000 total. Is it worth it to still apply or will it be an automatic TBNT and lock the app for six months?
Why would you get an automatic TBNT? Aren’t the mins 500 preferred now?
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Old 08-16-2023, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by gbo2
Currently at B6 and live in BNA. Have just shy of 500 turbine with almost 2000 total. Is it worth it to still apply or will it be an automatic TBNT and lock the app for six months?
You don't get TBNT, they just don't consider your app. As soon as you get 500 turbine, they'll call though.
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Old 08-16-2023, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
Those were union jobs. USAir employees ran ramp control at one time. (Mechanics also ran the deicing there for OT at one time). Not sure whether they gave ramp back to the city after the merger, but I’m guessing that’s why it held on as long as it did.

When the “new” terminal (it’ll always be the new one to me since I grew up in PIT) opened in around 1994 the “Air Mall” was heavily marketed to the surrounding community. Come do some shopping, have a meal, and pick up your family from their flight. They even validated parking. This was all pre 9/11 so anybody could go through security for shopping and dining. My wife and I even had our first date at the TGI Fridays in the terminal there. It was one of the first midfield terminals and a really unique model. Those escalators just past security used to go to the E gates, where there were three piers for USAir Express. Tons of gates for everything from Dash 8s, Saab 340s, Dornier 328, Beech 1900s, and Jetstream 31. Wasn’t big enough for RJs though so when they came on the scene and the turboprops were slowly retired it ultimately went away. During the British Airways/USAir partnership they brought in the Concorde for a demo flight. I remember my Dad took me out of school to go check it out. BA ran a 747 in there for quite some time too. PIT was an impressive hub in the mid-90s until USAir decided to close it down after the second bankruptcy.
I was flying for a commuter when the "new" PIT opened and this is all 100% true. We used to look forward to PIT ground time because of the food choices alone. It's still one of the better ones in that regard, which isn't saying much.
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Heard there is absolutely nothing remarkable or economically enticing about STL. The city doesn’t offer much.

MCI is a much better choice as far as long term sustainability goes.
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Originally Posted by dmcaso
Heard there is absolutely nothing remarkable or economically enticing about STL. The city doesn’t offer much.

MCI is a much better choice as far as long term sustainability goes.
The only thing STL has going is gate space. Terminal is old, food options suck, downtown is crime ridden, airport hotels have nothing nearby.


If we shrunk STL through flights and grew MCI provided there’s enough gate space I can see it make more sense.
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