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Old 08-09-2023, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by flyguy81
Ya got people whoring themselves out on vacations…I’d say you’re right.
hey man I'm getting a new boat I have to pay for so I'm working over my summer vacation so I can buy the boat and not use it this yr but itll look really great next to my other toys I bought while working over vacation the previous yrs that I still havent used but I can brag about them while flying over my vacation next summer. C'mon man
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Old 08-09-2023, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by hoover
hey man I'm getting a new boat I have to pay for so I'm working over my summer vacation so I can buy the boat and not use it this yr but itll look really great next to my other toys I bought while working over vacation the previous yrs that I still havent used but I can brag about them while flying over my vacation next summer. C'mon man
Exactly! This is the SWA pilots way of life. Then that same idiot will vote yes on a lagging contract wondering why he’s working so much to pay for that crap.
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Old 08-10-2023, 07:29 AM
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Last updated: 2:40 PM ET, Wed August 9, 2023A Texas judge has found Southwest Airlines to be in contempt for the way it explained a recent legal case defeat to employees after a flight attendant accused the low-cost carrier of firing her for expressing her opposition to abortion.

According to the Associated Press, U.S. District Judge Brantley Starr ordered Southwest to pay the flight attendant's most recent legal costs, dictated a statement for Southwest to pass along to its employees and ordered three of the airline's lawyers to complete "religious-liberty training" from a conservative Christian legal-advocacy group.

Charlene Carter won a roughly $800,000 judgment against the airline and the flight attendant's union last year, prompting Southwest to file an appeal in May. A spokesman for the carrier said it also plans to appeal the judge's latest sanctions.

Carter has since gotten her job back.

In his 29-page order, Starr said that Southwest acted as if its own policy limiting what employees can say is more important than a federal law protecting religious speech.

According to Carter, she was fired after calling the union president "despicable" for attending the 2017 Women's March in Washington, D.C. However, Southwest and Local 556 of the Transport Workers Union allege Carter had made offensive posts on Facebook and harassed the union president in private messages.

Southwest has been ordered to email a new verbatim statement declaring that it may not discriminate against flight attendants for religious beliefs "including — but not limited" to abortion
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Old 08-17-2023, 10:11 AM
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Last Monday, Texas U.S. District Judge Brantley Starr entered an order sanctioning Southwest for violating a previous order. The case revolved around the illegal firing of a Southwest flight attendant, who was laid off because she posted a pro-life tweet on her social media. A jury found Southwest and the flight attendant union were guilty of violating the attendant’s free speech rights and religious liberties, and awarded her $5.1 million dollars, which was later reduced by the judge to $800,000.
As part of the original decision, the judge ordered Southwest to notify all its employees, to make sure they know about their religious freedom rights under Title VII. But Southwest and its lawyers tried to circumvent that order, and instead of following the judge’s instructions, sent a watered-down note to employees implying Southwest had been found innocent, and failed to mention their religious liberty rights or Title VII.
So the judge sanctioned Southwest and included two interesting provisions. First, the judge ordered Southwest’s three lawyers to attend “religious freedom education” training provided by the Alliance Defending Freedom. The Hill described the ADF as “a Christian conservative legal advocacy group,” a sign of how upset that part of the order has made liberals.
Liberals are the ones who force conservatives to go to reeducation training, not the other way around, silly.
The judge also wrote out an exact notice that he ordered Southwest to send to its employees, to make sure they get the correct instructions this time.
So of course, instead of complying with a little training and a one-paragraph notice that could be emailed to employees at zero cost, Southwest is spending tens of thousands of dollars on appealing the sanctions order and the underlying judgment. “We plan to appeal the recent court order and are in the process of appealing the underlying judgment to the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals,” Southwest said in a statement Wednesday.
Good luck. The Fifth Circuit was reliably pro-freedom during the pandemic, issuing some of the best anti-mandate orders in the country. District judges have a lot of freedom to sanction parties that violate orders. It could have been much worse, including jail time for contempt. A little training and a note to employees seems like the minimum a judge could do when a company refuses to follow its orders.
As to Southwest’s appeal of the underlying judgment, it is well known that appeals of jury verdicts are the most difficult types of appeals to win. Appellate judges hate disturbing all the work that a jury invested in listening to witnesses and reviewing evidence and so forth. So I don’t predict the appeal will be well taken. I predict that the flight attendant’s lawyers will soon be getting even more of their fees paid by Southwest. But we’ll see!
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Old 08-23-2023, 12:24 AM
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Southwest Sanctioned Again for Religious Discrimination

https://dallasexpress.com/city/south...JuhA1m44HUuaP7
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Old 08-23-2023, 02:59 AM
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I suspect they aren’t appealing the required training so much as they are the organization the judge chose to provide the training.
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Old 08-23-2023, 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by hoover
hey man I'm getting a new boat I have to pay for so I'm working over my summer vacation so I can buy the boat and not use it this yr but itll look really great next to my other toys I bought while working over vacation the previous yrs that I still havent used but I can brag about them while flying over my vacation next summer. C'mon man
Easiest way to tell if a guy is cool or not is to check their sick bank in CWA. If you’re sitting on 800 hrs, your life priorities are ****.
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Old 08-23-2023, 05:18 AM
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Easiest way to tell if a guy is cool or not is to check their sick bank in CWA. If you’re sitting on 800 hrs, your life priorities are ****.
That guy also does 200tfp/mo and has his board blocked but “isn’t a tournament player”.
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Old 08-23-2023, 06:49 AM
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Easiest way to tell if a guy is cool or not is to check their sick bank in CWA. If you’re sitting on 800 hrs, your life priorities are ****.
My bank is higher than it should be because I’m using it for STD vs paying for it and figured I’d save the “I just don’t wanna go to work” calls for when I upgraded and it was worth 40% more.
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Old 08-23-2023, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by flyguy81
My bank is higher than it should be because I’m using it for STD vs paying for it and figured I’d save the “I just don’t wanna go to work” calls for when I upgraded and it was worth 40% more.
It’s a gamble. How much are you willing to miss, not experience or put up with vs the off chance you don’t live long enough to use it.

Im a tomorrow is never guaranteed guy so I use it when I need to.
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