flyguy81

Least they’re about to be paid more to deal with the BS.

Zard

it’s good to know we’ve got something that’s industry standard over here at the trailways, even if it’s our own $hitty quality of life.

calmemployment

AA Pilots Approve New Contract.

https://aerocrewnews.com/aviation-ne...t5SXuFZiyhtR5k

hoover

is anyone going to step up and get a decent contract? These contracts dont even cover inflation yet alone improvements.

flyguy81

Well…it’s on us. Company is prob just looking to match to the penny.

ZapBrannigan

Two of them didn’t even bother to go to mediation, and the ones that did are engaging in traditional pattern bargaining. My guess is that SWA thinks they’ll get a 51% vote by matching rates at the big 3, and they’re probably just frustrated that swapa has been asking for all the other scheduling, QOL, LTD, ancillaries, and maternity leave type stuff because historically this pilot group has been motivated by money at the expense of everything else.

How many times did we hear “I make as much as a Delta widebody Captain” (well sure, you’re flying 170 TFP per month and you’re never home… but hey, your wife’s new boyfriend can reap the rewards of all that pay) All that SWA Pilot exceptionalism garbage comes at a cost.

The jealousy this group historically displayed (and still displays judging by the annual wiener measuring contest in the salary survey threads) led to a CULTURE of begging for every penny while ignoring everything else that makes a major airline contract worth working for.

I’m hopeful that ends this cycle. Yes, pay that is competitive (or even industry leading) would be great. But I want the laundry list too. If not now, when?

Grumpyaviator

I don’t care if we get to TA4, it has to be the full SWAPA proposal and;

Long call/short call

Trip ownership

Non-contactable prior to reserve assignment

SWAPA Hotel committee

Long/short hotels

JA protection

No JA during OT trip

Hotel in domicile for JA

Pos space home after JA

200% JA and out of footprint

Comp days for JA

Meals or significant improvements in PD

Training bidding

Trip drop based on computed algorithm

Continuous combined open time

100% retro

Retro established in advance for next-contract

Redeye protection, no legs before or after

Leg change override

Shoulder flying override

PS for IROPs

PS for commuter clause policy

Hotel rooms in domicile

Parking

Uniforms

Pay/perdiem

Disability and sick improvements

Continuation of benefits on disability

$1m paid life insurance

Pay that reflects productivity

All flying rigged

No middle seats on DHs

6 weeks vacation

mulcher

I like it except NO JA at all. there are other ways to cover flying or cancel it.

Funny when I was hired here. We were the highest paid pilot's period. I know it was because of the bankruptcies. But our pay didn't stop the growth and prosperity of SWA then. Being the highest paid pilots won't prevent that now. I expect to return to being the highest paid. Go figure we also didn't have any problems attracting pilots then either.

Crockrocket95

Oh you can be the highest paid.. you just have to work 6 extra days a month to do it! (sarcasm)

I had a convo the other day with a classmate, he said he made more than his buddies at delta... the difference was he was working 18 days a month, they were working 13 (maybe less). Yeah. Cmon guys. 12 days for 12 days and I want to see a larger paycheck for us.

OpieTaylor

For academic purposes:

Probably reasonable for them to say their fuel hedging program was contributing to that. Also if legacy’s were filing BK and flushing pensions; how can you say highest paid period.

The period means no context required, clearly context is required. There are stories of Northwest pilots getting a 1 million dollar lump sum check at retirement.