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Old 07-26-2023, 11:56 AM
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Reuters article:

First delivery of Boeing 737 MAX 7 delayed to 2024 -US SEC filing



https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/first-delivery-boeing-737-max-7-delayed-2024-filing-2023-07-26/
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First delivery of Boeing 737 MAX 7 delayed to 2024 -US SEC filing



https://www.reuters.com/business/aer...ng-2023-07-26/
Unreal. *SOMETHING* is going on with the MAX 7 that’s not being publicized. I’d love for this delay to translate into SWA getting fed up with Boeing and pulling the trigger on a different fleet type.
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Time to un-hitch ourselves from this dead horse. All the advantages of a single fleet type evaporate when you can't get deliveries.

Alternate plan: We cancel the -7 deliveries, get all -8's, and have a long-haul fleet-within-a-fleet with some premium seats, an expanded galley, and some real food for sale? That would mostly solve the weight/range issues since we'd be carrying fewer passengers on it (and thus take more fuel), and let us compete for some higher-fare customers that would never fly anything less than business class.
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
Unreal. *SOMETHING* is going on with the MAX 7 that’s not being publicized. I’d love for this delay to translate into SWA getting fed up with Boeing and pulling the trigger on a different fleet type.
Prob called there's nobody steering the ship at the FAA and the Fed's don't want to give Boeing any leeway after the crashes. Makes no sense to me since Dickson literally flew a -7 to certify the -8. I can see the -10 being delayed with the goofy landing gear, but there's no difference between the 7 and 8 except it's a little shorter. Prob just a ****ing match between Boeing and the gov't....
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Originally Posted by CA1900
Time to un-hitch ourselves from this dead horse. All the advantages of a single fleet type evaporate when you can't get deliveries.

Alternate plan: We cancel the -7 deliveries, get all -8's, and have a long-haul fleet-within-a-fleet with some premium seats, an expanded galley, and some real food for sale? That would mostly solve the weight/range issues since we'd be carrying fewer passengers on it (and thus take more fuel), and let us compete for some higher-fare customers that would never fly anything less than business class.
Bahahahaha!!!! You funny boy! This is SWA we’re talking about.
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Originally Posted by flyguy81
Prob called there's nobody steering the ship at the FAA and the Fed's don't want to give Boeing any leeway after the crashes. Makes no sense to me since Dickson literally flew a -7 to certify the -8. I can see the -10 being delayed with the goofy landing gear, but there's no difference between the 7 and 8 except it's a little shorter. Prob just a ****ing match between Boeing and the gov't....
The -7 continues to boggle anyone rational. You are correct, there are virtually no differences between the -7 and -8 so this delay is absurd. It seemed like a fine deal with the Congressional extension now they're going to screw around an entire additional year??
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Originally Posted by ca1900
time to un-hitch ourselves from this dead horse. All the advantages of a single fleet type evaporate when you can't get deliveries.

alternate plan: We cancel the -7 deliveries, get all -8's, and have a long-haul fleet-within-a-fleet with some premium seats, an expanded galley, and some real food for sale? That would mostly solve the weight/range issues since we'd be carrying fewer passengers on it (and thus take more fuel), and let us compete for some higher-fare customers that would never fly anything less than business class.
blasphemy!!! Thats not how we did it on the 300!!! Seize him!!
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You do realize that 2024 is almost here right? They could never order that many planes elsewhere and get them quicker. I do like the idea of having 8 “Business Select” seats on each plane though!
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Originally Posted by CA1900
Time to un-hitch ourselves from this dead horse. All the advantages of a single fleet type evaporate when you can't get deliveries.

Alternate plan: We cancel the -7 deliveries, get all -8's, and have a long-haul fleet-within-a-fleet with some premium seats, an expanded galley, and some real food for sale? That would mostly solve the weight/range issues since we'd be carrying fewer passengers on it (and thus take more fuel), and let us compete for some higher-fare customers that would never fly anything less than business class.

This is not “how we’ve always done it”. You obviously don’t work here. Take your good ideas to your own un-exceptional airline.
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Rumor has it that the “Big Front Seat” on Spirit is really there for weight and balance purposes, but they leverage that to upsell a more comfortable product. I’d like to see us do that. We miss out on a lot of revenue opportunities by not having assigned seats.
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