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Old 07-27-2023, 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
Rumor has it that the “Big Front Seat” on Spirit is really there for weight and balance purposes, but they leverage that to upsell a more comfortable product. I’d like to see us do that. We miss out on a lot of revenue opportunities by not having assigned seats.
It's not a rumor. Some of the spirit planes have so many seats that they'd have to add another raft. So they put in a couple rows of big front seats and remove a cockpit jumpseat to keep the seat count legal for the rafts. While I was at spirit, the fleet was very uniform. Every plane had essentially identical equipment, with minor variations such as one or two rows of big front seats, a removed jumpseat, etc. They all had rafts, and had exactly the number of seats on the plane that were legal. One more seat and they'd have to add safety equipment (or maybe another FA).
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Old 07-27-2023, 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted by flyguy81
Make the first 2-3 rows big seats and prevent pre-boards from sitting there. Lying wheelchair abusers can keep moving on back.
When we went from 137 seats to 143 seats I said that they should keep the seat count at 137 but make the first 3 rows Business Select as we very seldom have more 10 or more Business Select passengers. You could still do that with unasssigned seats by requiring the passenger to show his Business Select boarding pass in order to sit in those seats. When an Ops Agent said that we couldn't legally keep preboarders out of those seats I told him it would be done the same way legacies keep preboarders out of First Class. Just because you board in a wheel chair doesn't mean you get to sit in a higher fare seat.
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Old 07-27-2023, 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by tanker
When we went from 137 seats to 143 seats I said that they should keep the seat count at 137 but make the first 3 rows Business Select as we very seldom have more 10 or more Business Select passengers. You could still do that with unasssigned seats by requiring the passenger to show his Business Select boarding pass in order to sit in those seats. When an Ops Agent said that we couldn't legally keep preboarders out of those seats I told him it would be done the same way legacies keep preboarders out of First Class. Just because you board in a wheel chair doesn't mean you get to sit in a higher fare seat.
I think it’s a terrific idea. They could sell upgrades at the gate if they don’t have enough business selects to fill them.
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Old 07-27-2023, 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by tanker
When we went from 137 seats to 143 seats I said that they should keep the seat count at 137 but make the first 3 rows Business Select as we very seldom have more 10 or more Business Select passengers. You could still do that with unasssigned seats by requiring the passenger to show his Business Select boarding pass in order to sit in those seats. When an Ops Agent said that we couldn't legally keep preboarders out of those seats I told him it would be done the same way legacies keep preboarders out of First Class. Just because you board in a wheel chair doesn't mean you get to sit in a higher fare seat.
Or here is a thought, let the business select board before everyone and their seats are assigned. I know I know, not the way Herb would have done it three decades ago about hey, we can make changes at some point right?
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Old 07-27-2023, 06:18 AM
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Funny, 3-4 weeks ago in CQ a system CP told us that Boeing told them Aug of this year, so they were expecting Dec. Nobody in DAL knows what they fuc is going on with anything. Rudderless doesn’t even begin to describe the clown show here.
well there is the problem. Boeing has nothing to do with when the 7 gets certified. It is all in the hands of the FAA. Would love for someone to tell all the stories about how Federal Agencies work their but off to get things done.

the FAA is dragging their feet because they can and no one will make them move any faster. It is the summer and they need their vacation. Call you Representatives and ask them if they know how many people the FAA has working on this……
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Old 07-27-2023, 05:45 PM
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well there is the problem. Boeing has nothing to do with when the 7 gets certified. It is all in the hands of the FAA. Would love for someone to tell all the stories about how Federal Agencies work their but off to get things done.

the FAA is dragging their feet because they can and no one will make them move any faster. It is the summer and they need their vacation. Call you Representatives and ask them if they know how many people the FAA has working on this……
Maybe Secretary Buttegig is back on 180 days of baby leave again for another baby that he and his husband adopted?
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Old 07-27-2023, 07:15 PM
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Maybe Secretary Buttegig is back on 180 days of baby leave again for another baby that he and his husband adopted?
meanwhile SWA took back their maternity proposal.
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Old 07-27-2023, 07:18 PM
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meanwhile SWA took back their maternity proposal.
So basically same thing. No maternity in either case.
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
Bahahahaha!!!! You funny boy! This is SWA we’re talking about.
I know. A man can dream.
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Old 07-28-2023, 08:55 PM
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I know. A man can dream.
did you just ASSUME your own identity, sir??!!! I am offended!!
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