SWA: "3 years left of pilot shortage"
06-04-2023, 08:44 AM
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The hours requirement established by the regulation, to qualify for an Airline Transport Pilot Certificate, existed long before Colgan. The requirement to hold an ATP came after, and it's a very minimal requirement.
Minimum standards have always been set for each level of certification. This is not new.
What is new(er) is the ability to meet the standards for the ATP with some alternate means; it's the alternate means that do not improve safety.
But good god, the FAA established that airline transport pilots should hold, at a minimum, the namesake pilot certificate specific to the job: an Airline Transport Pilot certificate. Weird, right?
Minimum standards have always been set for each level of certification. This is not new.
What is new(er) is the ability to meet the standards for the ATP with some alternate means; it's the alternate means that do not improve safety.
But good god, the FAA established that airline transport pilots should hold, at a minimum, the namesake pilot certificate specific to the job: an Airline Transport Pilot certificate. Weird, right?
06-04-2023, 09:44 AM
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Position: DOWNGRADE COMPLETE: Thanks Gary. Thanks SWAPA.
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06-04-2023, 10:34 AM
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That was always for the PIC. The requirement that an SIC (who from time immemorial could hold a commercial and a 2nd class medical) to hold at ATP is very much new. Good/bad you can debate. But "well of course airline pilots should have an ATP" doesn't pass the sniff test.
06-04-2023, 02:46 PM
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LOL...I was thinking the same thing. I wonder how many of these imbeciles thrive in the VP pool or the C-Suite. #NoShoBoJo is that you?
06-04-2023, 02:50 PM
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He's a transition man plain and simple. He's in his sixties and has demonstrated that he is not CEO material. Whatever they have in store for SWA is his to transition like he did with AirTran. When a "CEO" doesn't appear at a senate hearing when they were willing to work with his schedule it's obvious GK/BOD didn't want him speaking. #Puppet
06-04-2023, 03:10 PM
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06-04-2023, 03:47 PM
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One of the MCO reps jumped in to explain that, in a nutshell, polling didn't support separate hotels. This is pretty much exactly the sort of dynamic within SWAPA that I talked about in a post back on 5/12, especially point "B."
If, within the next six months, the company presents an offer to SWAPA that meets many of the goals of the outdated FP2020, the discussion at SWAPA might become that they're obliged to send it to the membership for reasons like: A) not doing so could risk some sort of DFR claim against them, and B) FP2020 was all they ever advertised they were going to attempt to achieve. Their "mandate" from the membership doesn't authorize them to sacrifice members' time value of money and so on in order to pursue goals beyond those laid out in FP2020.
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