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06-24-2023, 01:12 PM
#122
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
Position: cpt 737
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[QUOTE=Lewbronski;3655601]In my view of how the RLA works, whether or not a dispute is at a true impasse is the most important test of whether or not it will be released from mediation. There's a secondary component of "time in mediation" that influences whether or not a dispute will be released. But time in mediation, is not, in itself, enough to achieve a release. If progress toward or the prospect for progress toward an agreement still exists, it is unlikely that a dispute will be released from mediation.
I guess we know there isnt a max character limit
I guess we know there isnt a max character limit
06-24-2023, 02:37 PM
#124
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Joined APC: Feb 2018
Posts: 1,264
[QUOTE=hoover;3655645]
And so here we are.
From the last paragraph of my post that Hoover is referencing as being too long:
In my view of how the RLA works, whether or not a dispute is at a true impasse is the most important test of whether or not it will be released from mediation. There's a secondary component of "time in mediation" that influences whether or not a dispute will be released. But time in mediation, is not, in itself, enough to achieve a release. If progress toward or the prospect for progress toward an agreement still exists, it is unlikely that a dispute will be released from mediation.
I guess we know there isnt a max character limit
I guess we know there isnt a max character limit
From the last paragraph of my post that Hoover is referencing as being too long:
The overwhelming majority of pilots, though, are a different story, though. Unaware of all or most of the information in this post, they succumb to “negotiating fatigue” and an inability to play the long game. That ignorance of the mediation landscape and the lack of will to understand the dynamics created by the law that governs how contracts are negotiated in their profession costs individual pilots and their families millions of dollars in lifetime career compensation. Moreover, it imposes an incalculable toll in more days away from home, poorer work rules, and lesser benefits that pilots and their loved ones are forced to tolerate because most pilots refuse to put in the work to understand the leverage they could wield if they merely understood the game that is created by the machinery of the RLA. Instead, they prefer the far easier task of believing myths and bullsh** fed to them by ill-informed “buddies,” unreliable media reporting, and individuals (like TSMITR) or organizations with dubious intent.
06-24-2023, 03:44 PM
#126
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Joined APC: Mar 2017
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Once again you amaze me on your breadth of knowledge about the subject matter and I for one have educated other pilots that had the wrong information, referencing your posts directly at times. I am sure it feels like an uphill battle but I am willing to bet more people on here appreciate your posts than dislike them, so try and ignore the naysayers.
Thank you for the detailed answer, I appreciate it.
Thank you for the detailed answer, I appreciate it.
06-24-2023, 04:41 PM
#127
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Joined APC: Oct 2017
Posts: 333
Too bad Lew is the only powerful voice on this subject. Imagine how powerful it would be if swapa was dialed in on the education and communication in like manner. Imagine union reps handing out booklets, in the base airports, with the previously posted summary commanding all pilots to hold the line and demonstrating such mastery of the RLA process. I think it could get downright scary for the company! Currently, there is no fear. Why would there be?
06-24-2023, 05:57 PM
#128
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Joined APC: Dec 2019
Posts: 174
Too bad Lew is the only powerful voice on this subject. Imagine how powerful it would be if swapa was dialed in on the education and communication in like manner. Imagine union reps handing out booklets, in the base airports, with the previously posted summary commanding all pilots to hold the line and demonstrating such mastery of the RLA process. I think it could get downright scary for the company! Currently, there is no fear. Why would there be?
Poopoo out.
06-24-2023, 06:07 PM
#129
At your mom's house
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Position: cpt 737
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07-13-2023, 12:58 PM
#130
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Posts: 1,027
You are correct it’s not Herb’s airline. Herb never paid industry standard wages for Southwest employees. He always kept them well below the competition and enjoyed a major advantage over other airlines. Only since Herb left did SW start getting industry standard contracts.
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