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Old 05-27-2023, 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by AJ311
SFO controllers believe their little note in the atis affords them the ability to drop last minute runway changes on you and be immediately ready. It’s clear nobody in that tower understands the current procedures in most airline cockpits when it comes to a runway change, not that I’m surprised by this at all.
Exactly, it's not like we just press a button and poof, ready to swap runways. At least at WN we have an additional checklist to run in addition to getting the plane setup for new runway and verifying the data. Its not that it is a huge deal but its not instant like they would like.
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Old 05-27-2023, 10:18 AM
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Being the "The first" to post somthing like this and start a thread on APC just for attention says much about taking anything you post seriously. Especially because you are all over this forum. Next time take a moment to do a little digging to see for yourself. It helps knowing what is true and what is a completely manipulated news article.

One day you might find yourself crossing not one but two runways according to some bullsh!t news article. Way to spread information my guy. Bravo 👏 👏 👏
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Old 05-27-2023, 12:49 PM
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Not SW crews fault at all but its too late for that. The court of public opinion thanks to the media - seen at least 3-4 different news stories now - have decided that SW is to blame, and unfortunately that is what sticks, not the facts.
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Old 05-27-2023, 01:03 PM
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How does something like this make the papers or YouTube? Someone has to take the time (99% a pilot working a flight in SFO at this timeframe deciding to be a snitch) to report this incident to a local news outlet.

Either that or the FAA has a snitch who dislikes SWA. This happens daily at airports all around the country. Was it sloppier than normal? Sure. My 2nd ever 121 flight required a go-around due to traffic slow rolling it on the runway.

This is literally a hit piece lmao.
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Old 06-05-2023, 05:34 AM
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I guess it would be a good time to post this link here. It seems as though SFO tower is trending. Too bad I suppose there is no Southwest around to blame it on this time...


https://youtu.be/DrRGde5J8mo
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Old 06-05-2023, 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Grishka
I guess it would be a good time to post this link here. It seems as though SFO tower is trending. Too bad I suppose there is no Southwest around to blame it on this time...


https://youtu.be/DrRGde5J8mo
Listen to the video. NorCal TRACON is even p!$$ed off at SFO tower. What does that tell you?
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Old 06-05-2023, 12:45 PM
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Listen to the video. NorCal TRACON is even p!$$ed off at SFO tower. What does that tell you?
Obviously that Southwest is responsible for United going around not one but TWO times! (Sarcasm)
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Old 06-05-2023, 06:01 PM
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Another SFO ATC video.
https://youtu.be/XZzBTZctiAg
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Old 06-05-2023, 07:44 PM
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Another SFO ATC video.
Ugh.

The JFK videos are way more entertaining.
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Old 06-05-2023, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN
How does something like this make the papers or YouTube? Someone has to take the time (99% a pilot working a flight in SFO at this timeframe deciding to be a snitch) to report this incident to a local news outlet.

Either that or the FAA has a snitch who dislikes SWA. This happens daily at airports all around the country. Was it sloppier than normal? Sure. My 2nd ever 121 flight required a go-around due to traffic slow rolling it on the runway.

This is literally a hit piece lmao.
The jump to “must be a snitch” is a little out there. There’s a large community of listeners on LiveATC.net who will pick this stuff up so fast it’s viral before the plane lands.

at my last place we had an issue with pilots misdiagnosing a good airplane into an urgent emergency, and it had thousands of views on YouTube very quickly. Of course liveatc didn’t have any of the follow up or backstory, so thousands of people assumed there was a big problem with the airplane when in fact it was a healthy airplane and the pilots just misinterpreted an indication. It happens, learning experience for everyone, it just didn’t used to get blasted all over cyberspace with incomplete info and no context like it does now.

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