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Old 05-28-2023, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
Honest question... does this help end racism and win people to DEI side?

https://thepostmillennial.com/black-...campaign=64470
It should help if you look at the evidence. She was late, she doesn’t deny that at all, but so were most of her co workers. That evidence was presented using Equinox’s own swipe in data that showed just about everyone was always late. She reported a direct report that used racist and sexist comments and then she was singled out. In fact the co worker accused of the comments was also shown in to be late quite a bit. So why was she the only one fired? Just asking???
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It should help if you look at the evidence. She was late, she doesn’t deny that at all, but so were most of her co workers. That evidence was presented using Equinox’s own swipe in data that showed just about everyone was always late. She reported a direct report that used racist and sexist comments and then she was singled out. In fact the co worker accused of the comments was also shown in to be late quite a bit. So why was she the only one fired? Just asking???
The article only states her 47 times. At no point does it state if that was above or below average. And at no point does the article mention the coworker. This is from the NYT article:"Ms. Europe never denied that she was often late for work, but her lawyers had presented jurors with a chart indicating how many other people also failed to show up on time, though, with relatively few consequences.". That is the only reference to other people being late. Just saying.
It definitely sounds like a cr2p place to work for POC, but lets not forget she wasn't exactly a model employee either.
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Old 05-28-2023, 05:46 PM
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The article only states her 47 times. At no point does it state if that was above or below average. And at no point does the article mention the coworker. This is from the NYT article:"Ms. Europe never denied that she was often late for work, but her lawyers had presented jurors with a chart indicating how many other people also failed to show up on time, though, with relatively few consequences.". That is the only reference to other people being late. Just saying.
It definitely sounds like a cr2p place to work for POC, but lets not forget she wasn't exactly a model employee either.
You really should read more than that article about the case. You believe everything that is posted on the internet? Do your research

”At trial, Ms. Europe testified that Equinox repeatedly ignored her complaints of racist and sexually inappropriate behavior by Christopher Maltman, a fitness manager who reported to her. Maltman frequently made vulgar comments about Black women’s bodies, harassed Equinox employees using offensive language, and diverted personal training clients away from employees of color. Maltman remains employed by Equinox to this day.

Instead of addressing the hostile work environment created by Maltman, Equinox fired Ms. Europe, using “lateness” as a pretext. Swipe-in data shown at trial proved that other managers at Equinox had worse time and attendance records than Ms. Europe, yet she was the only one who faced any discipline for it.”

That’s from the actual court case
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Old 05-29-2023, 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluesideup1
This is just a YouTube video so take it for what it is worth. If true, the reason we are seeing massive uptick in DEI around campus is not because of any woke ideology but more for the concerns of upper managements pocket book. I can understand that. If you offered me a couple mil to push something that doesn't help the company or bottom line I would be happy to jump on board spouting nonsense and disappear into the shadows when confronted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcWyPx9ookg

These 3 targets can’t coexist…DEI means you aren’t hiring the most competitive people for recovery response (which sounds reactive, not proactive) and network improvements And it makes southwoke even funnier..like Anheuser Busch and now Target, our leadership is going to push it too far and **** off their employees and customer base even more.
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
Although DEI is seemingly about equity and inclusion, there is zero effort to include solely by social status/wealth. DEI is about about pushing the oppressed forward.
The “oppressed”? Honestly who is being oppressed in America nowadays? If anything its straight white males as we are the ones who are being discriminated against anymore.
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
The “oppressed”? Honestly who is being oppressed in America nowadays? If anything its straight white males as we are the ones who are being discriminated against anymore.
I think if you read my comment a bit more closely you will find I’m not sure about DEI. I am a liberal, but there is a limit on the amount of PC that I can handle.
Edit: And maybe I I wasn’t clear enough, but that post wasn’t meant as an endorsement of everything DEI.

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Old 05-29-2023, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ElonMusk
You really should read more than that article about the case. You believe everything that is posted on the internet? Do your research

”At trial, Ms. Europe testified that Equinox repeatedly ignored her complaints of racist and sexually inappropriate behavior by Christopher Maltman, a fitness manager who reported to her. Maltman frequently made vulgar comments about Black women’s bodies, harassed Equinox employees using offensive language, and diverted personal training clients away from employees of color. Maltman remains employed by Equinox to this day.

Instead of addressing the hostile work environment created by Maltman, Equinox fired Ms. Europe, using “lateness” as a pretext. Swipe-in data shown at trial proved that other managers at Equinox had worse time and attendance records than Ms. Europe, yet she was the only one who faced any discipline for it.”

That’s from the actual court case
I stand corrected. I thought you only inferred from the article, and I was definitely TL/DR to research the actual court case.
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
The “oppressed”? Honestly who is being oppressed in America nowadays? If anything its straight white males as we are the ones who are being discriminated against anymore.
It’s not discrimination, it’s “justice”.
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
Yeah geez.. can't imagine why they think we need DEI training.

(Dude. Seriously.)
Thank you for showing what a good person you are. Psarchasm
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Originally Posted by RckyMtHigh
It’s always about money. Getting a positive ESG (Environmental, Social, and Governance) rating on your stock taps you into a multi billion dollar investment market. It’s so important to the left that Biden used the first veto of his Presidency in order to protect a rule that says fund managers must use ESG factors within the context of what is in investors’ best interests (for federal workers). Not exclusively, but it’s part of the formula. With the personal fortune of many corporate executives (including ours) is directly tied to a positive ESG rating, is it any wonder why the DEI push is happening across corporate America? Don’t think it’s because they actually care or believe the words they’re saying​​​​​. It’s the stock price.

In my opinion, ESG ratings are an example of something that started out positive but turned. I don’t really want my investment dollars going to Phillip Morris or a strip mining operation. The problem is that the rating process is unregulated and has been co-opted by the left to push agendas that aren’t necessarily in the company’s or investor’s best interest, but they in effect must comply with anyway.

There has never been 1 positive thing about ESG ratings. It is absolute crap and you know it.
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