Town Hall 5/17
05-17-2023, 08:34 AM
#2
Furloughed Again?!
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Fwiw, if you missed this one you didn’t miss much. This town hall was about network planning and execution.
- Shoulder flying is going to continue although there may be some relief on Tuesdays and Wednesdays.
- They acknowledge attrition and are tweaking the schedule close in to accommodate for fewer pilots.
- They didn’t address much regarding the questions/comments about crew fatigue.
- The usual platitudes about growing to 1000 airplanes within 5 years.
- Somebody asked how we recruit pilots competing with the legacies, he basically said a contract would help. Dropped the word “recession” a few times.
- Front runners for the new domiciles are Nashville, St Louis, Kansas City. No new Florida cities because they’re worried about two crew bases being taken down by a hurricane. Should be an announcement this fall.
- Denver and Vegas will be the bottlenecks this summer due to runway construction.
05-17-2023, 09:52 AM
#3
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Fwiw, if you missed this one you didn’t miss much. This town hall was about network planning and execution.
- Shoulder flying is going to continue although there may be some relief on Tuesdays and Wednesdays.
- They acknowledge attrition and are tweaking the schedule close in to accommodate for fewer pilots.
- They didn’t address much regarding the questions/comments about crew fatigue.
- The usual platitudes about growing to 1000 airplanes within 5 years.
- Somebody asked how we recruit pilots competing with the legacies, he basically said a contract would help. Dropped the word “recession” a few times.
- Front runners for the new domiciles are Nashville, St Louis, Kansas City. No new Florida cities because they’re worried about two crew bases being taken down by a hurricane. Should be an announcement this fall.
- Denver and Vegas will be the bottlenecks this summer due to runway construction.
Thanks Zap
05-17-2023, 11:36 AM
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Denver slays me. You would think with its Dr. Evil quasi futuristic design and relatively uncomplicated airspace, it would be a model of efficiency, even if an entire side of the airport shut down. No, it is terrible even on a good day. I have thrown up my hands so many times there with unnecessary atc shenanigans that I have pretty much just given up hope. I was in line to take off one day and they turned the airport around. I had to taxi 10 miles from 17R to 25 all the way back through the ramp. A few weeks ago they had one departure runway open in the morning. The line was doubled up all the way down the taxiway.
I would love to spend a month in their tower with a crowbar and the ability to make change.
I would love to spend a month in their tower with a crowbar and the ability to make change.
05-17-2023, 12:18 PM
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Denver slays me. You would think with its Dr. Evil quasi futuristic design and relatively uncomplicated airspace, it would be a model of efficiency, even if an entire side of the airport shut down. No, it is terrible even on a good day. I have thrown up my hands so many times there with unnecessary atc shenanigans that I have pretty much just given up hope. I was in line to take off one day and they turned the airport around. I had to taxi 10 miles from 17R to 25 all the way back through the ramp. A few weeks ago they had one departure runway open in the morning. The line was doubled up all the way down the taxiway.
I would love to spend a month in their tower with a crowbar and the ability to make change.
I would love to spend a month in their tower with a crowbar and the ability to make change.
“You know I’ve been here 18 years and I honestly can’t give you a good answer for that”.
Just remember, chaos is cash and I don’t know about you but my GAS meter doesn’t even register nowadays.
Max $ signs between report for the trip and release. The rest I could care less about.
05-17-2023, 03:53 PM
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Sometimes I wonder if a few of these mgmt groups aren't hoping for at least a small recession to help cover for their lack of forward thinking and mgmt. They think a good downturn/slowdown will produce a plethora of pilots and much less pressure to settle a contract.
05-17-2023, 07:34 PM
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recessions never last as long as a recessionary contract does. Everyone needs to stop thinking that it's ok to accept less because either we're in a recession or one is about to happen. The c suite doesnt negotiate this way and neither shall we. Heck the worst yr ever for SW and the c suite got the biggest bonuses ever.
05-17-2023, 08:25 PM
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recessions never last as long as a recessionary contract does. Everyone needs to stop thinking that it's ok to accept less because either we're in a recession or one is about to happen. The c suite doesnt negotiate this way and neither shall we. Heck the worst yr ever for SW and the c suite got the biggest bonuses ever.
05-17-2023, 08:35 PM
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recessions never last as long as a recessionary contract does. Everyone needs to stop thinking that it's ok to accept less because either we're in a recession or one is about to happen. The c suite doesnt negotiate this way and neither shall we. Heck the worst yr ever for SW and the c suite got the biggest bonuses ever.
05-17-2023, 09:11 PM
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recessions never last as long as a recessionary contract does. Everyone needs to stop thinking that it's ok to accept less because either we're in a recession or one is about to happen. The c suite doesnt negotiate this way and neither shall we. Heck the worst yr ever for SW and the c suite got the biggest bonuses ever.
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