Grumpyaviator

If you need extra tags they’re in the mailboxes of the pilots that went to OALs. They haven’t taken their mailboxes down yet. At least at my base.

waterskisabersw

There will always be a component of people who aren't participating.

Black tie excuse: "but patriotism!"

Lanyard excuse: "I'm not a lanyard guy!"

SAV YES excuse: "It doesn't fit on my ID because I have a little holder for it!"

Bag tag excuse: "I'm not a lounge guy!"

It is what it is. Like Lew said, if you want to do it, you'll find a way to do it. It's the same reason SWAPA came up with a plethora of ways to vote.

I've never understood the apathy of some people in this profession: you can't be bothered to vote on a major item that has consequences in the range of millions of dollars for you personally (not necessarily SAV but reps, exec, side letters, and contracts).

I thought the red bracelet was dumb, but I wore mine until it broke.

Ultimately you got the Gung ho crowd, say 34% of pilots, who got the tag as soon as they could. Then you'll have another apathetic 50% or so that will get it over the next couple months or so as people shame them or ask them why they don't have it. Then there will always be the 10% or so who just won't do it for whatever reason.

SWAPA put the tags in the mailboxes to save money because they're budgeting for the scenario where this takes a long time to cross the finish line. Do I agree with their logic? Meh, I don't know, it is what it is, because like I said: pilots who don't like it for whatever reason will always find an excuse for why they aren't doing what their union is asking them to do.

hoover

do a week day AM and go to the lounge in the morning and you'll see. Guys are there at 0400, place is lit up like the griswold's and everyone us yelling because they're all deaf while they tell stories of how they get their grass so green.
it's a little boisterous for me. But I'm glad they are there for people who use them.

e6bpilot

Gross. The lounge at 4am is a crime scene waiting to happen.
1. I hate early AMs
2. I hate people
3. I haven't had enough caffeine

I have come close to asking a van full of chatty flight attendants to kindly shut the f up and give me 15 minutes of peace, but then I thought of the paperwork and decided it isn't worth it.

Side story - I was forced to sleep in the lounge one night before we had sleep rooms. Hotels were full, I got in late.
I plopped down on a loveseat in a side room that was mainly used for storage and got about an hour of fitful sleep and I heard a door slam. In walks captain happy and turns on all the lights in my room, sees me on the loveseat half curled up looking like death, doesn't say a word, and starts shining his shoes with the spinny thing while whistling. I almost went to jail that day.

Zard

The 4AM van chat about who or what you did the previous day, plus the obligatory pictures of your grand-kittens and how cute they are is reason 1,420,690 why we need separate hotels.

*Most* pilots understand that silence at that hour is golden.

CA1900

Most.

I had one dude a few years back pull up the flight release and try to get a "head start" on the briefing at 3am on my body clock. My response was not polite.

at6d

I’m seeing bag tags at the school house.

MudhammedCJ

A couple of lukewaffe DBs did that to me in PHX 15 years ago. Clueless.

at6d

New ID tags are going live today. Give your old ones to a FA and replace it with the new YES STRIKE ID badge tag.

Finessed

When FedEx Express, a pilot group with literally zero leverage will receive a TA before Southwest, you know it’s bad, like really bad.