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Old 04-19-2023, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by GearAlarm
Agreed, no change to terminating procedures (as it relates to walk-arounds).
Buddy just did a check ride. Asked the check airperson if we now need to do walk around when terminating at MX base/station. Check airperson said, yes we do. Ugg.
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Old 04-20-2023, 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by JDFlyer
In full disclosure I allowed my initial experiences as a SWA FO determine my first flight of the day and plane-swap walk around procedure. Early in my career at SWA a CA yelled at me for not promptly doing the walk around duties immediately after arriving at the aircraft. He said, should I find anything, it would take a while to get the paperwork completed and properly reported and he did not want to take any kind of delay because of a late reported walk-around issue. I now admit I have been wrong all these years in using this walk around method. I will now be changing my procedure.

For absolute safety reasons, it would make much more sense to do the pre-flight walk around only at a point in time just before the jet bridge is pulled away from the aircraft. All vehicles, carts and extraneous persons would be removed and away from the safety zone of the aircraft at this point. Should any dents or other damage have occurred, or any panels of the aircraft be remaining open, this would be the only time to verify the aircraft is ready to push back, safely. It should be a meticulously completed inspection and any discrepancies noted should be reported to the CA and MC so that all thorough documentation and log book entries can be made and recorded in our maintenance control software and systems. There really is no other way to assure the safety of this inspection.

Remember, each and every pilot at SWA is representing and essentially guaranteeing the safety of the plane every time we take it airborne. You career depends on the quality of the work you do for SWA.

Safety is our number one priority as SWA pilots. So lets all make SWA the safest airline flying.
CA yelled at you? Ha. Guess what Cappy, you’re gonna be even later now while the NOC looks for my replacement. I’m not feeling well all of a sudden.
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Old 04-20-2023, 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Lewbronski
Buddy just did a check ride. Asked the check airperson if we now need to do walk around when terminating at MX base/station. Check airperson said, yes we do. Ugg.
They really gotta figure this stuff out. I sent a txt to the CKA that did my UOE. Asked him the same question. He said the guidance for terminating had not changed. No walk required if at MX base/station.
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Old 04-20-2023, 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by MatthewAMEL
They really gotta figure this stuff out. I sent a txt to the CKA that did my UOE. Asked him the same question. He said the guidance for terminating had not changed. No walk required if at MX base/station.

A check airman is not the person to ask. Their opinion is about the same as yours. If you want an answer on this, you would have to ask standards. Comply 360 has a section to email for questions and answers, although they are terrible at getting back and answering .
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Old 04-20-2023, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Mozam
A check airman is not the person to ask. Their opinion is about the same as yours. If you want an answer on this, you would have to ask standards. Comply 360 has a section to email for questions and answers, although they are terrible at getting back and answering .
or simply go with the fact that the terminating procedure language has not changed and stop making the job harder than it needs to be.
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Old 04-20-2023, 07:12 AM
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If the door code page in 365 says “see agent”, there ain’t gonna be a walk around that leg.
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Old 04-20-2023, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450
or simply go with the fact that the terminating procedure language has not changed and stop making the job harder than it needs to be.
But it has. They removed the language about maintenance bases/stations.
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Old 04-20-2023, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Lewbronski
But it has. They removed the language about maintenance bases/stations.
those bastards!
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Old 04-20-2023, 08:40 AM
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Who cares. Just dont do it at a mx base. If someone then says something tell them it's not our job to try and figure out what they want us to do. Be more clear next time.
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Old 04-20-2023, 09:40 AM
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Am I going to get fired if I “forget” to do this in a maintenance base at the end of a garbage three day (all trips here are garbage, why am I wasting words)?

No. I’m not. That makes this decision easy.
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