SWA Pilot Reports "Catastrophic Eng Failure"
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SWA Pilot Reports "Catastrophic Eng Failure"
SWA 9010 on 31 March departed PHX to BUR. Around 13K the pilot reported a Catastrophic Failure of the #1 engine.
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# of SOB/Fuel could/should have been answered immediately… not spitting that info out caused 3 extra radio calls and loss of brain bytes. But agree getting pushed to land is annoying but ATC/crew did good.
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Good job.
Use "Mayday" 3x. Don't use any other term or expression when flying international. State what you have, then what you want. Souls and FOB come later. The more you give them the less you have to answer to.
A 15 nm final about 5000 AFL. Works out. Fly slow. Take your time. Don't forget about the cabin.
You own the runway, don't be afraid to stop on it. It's going to be closed for a bit. Rolling out with flaps 40 could be helpful if you need to evacuate.
A 15 nm final about 5000 AFL. Works out. Fly slow. Take your time. Don't forget about the cabin.
You own the runway, don't be afraid to stop on it. It's going to be closed for a bit. Rolling out with flaps 40 could be helpful if you need to evacuate.
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I really think we need to re-evaluate the whole, "Souls and fuel on board."
Souls on board: The reasoning is it lets first responders know how many bodies to look for/people to treat. I'm sorry, but that level of detail isn't needed right away. The controller should know if it's a small GA plane, light business jet, RJ, narrowbody, or widebody. That provides a ballpark range for first responders. If it gets to the point where they need to count bodies, there are other ways to find souls on board rather than asking the pilots when they are busy.
For fuel on board, I've come across 2 contrary requirements. I've been taught to express it in minutes. But then when I checked in with Tower as an emergency aircraft, they asked for the fuel in pounds. Apparently, ATC wants fuel in minutes to know how long you can stay in the air, but Tower/crash and rescue want fuel in pounds so they can prepare for a post-crash fire. If it's a low-fuel scenario, then sure, tell ATC so they know how close they need to keep you to the airport. If it's not a fuel emergency, then leave the pilots alone. We will tell you our constraints once we are done assessing the problem. As far as fuel in pounds for fire and rescue, I'm sorry, but 4 mile final is too late. Either the firetrucks have enough water/foam or they don't. Why not just keep the trucks topped off? I'd rather have them prepared for a big fire at all times.
Souls on board: The reasoning is it lets first responders know how many bodies to look for/people to treat. I'm sorry, but that level of detail isn't needed right away. The controller should know if it's a small GA plane, light business jet, RJ, narrowbody, or widebody. That provides a ballpark range for first responders. If it gets to the point where they need to count bodies, there are other ways to find souls on board rather than asking the pilots when they are busy.
For fuel on board, I've come across 2 contrary requirements. I've been taught to express it in minutes. But then when I checked in with Tower as an emergency aircraft, they asked for the fuel in pounds. Apparently, ATC wants fuel in minutes to know how long you can stay in the air, but Tower/crash and rescue want fuel in pounds so they can prepare for a post-crash fire. If it's a low-fuel scenario, then sure, tell ATC so they know how close they need to keep you to the airport. If it's not a fuel emergency, then leave the pilots alone. We will tell you our constraints once we are done assessing the problem. As far as fuel in pounds for fire and rescue, I'm sorry, but 4 mile final is too late. Either the firetrucks have enough water/foam or they don't. Why not just keep the trucks topped off? I'd rather have them prepared for a big fire at all times.
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