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03-22-2023, 03:20 AM

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Crockrocket95

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Originally Posted by at6d

Turns out I bypassed my first bid. I’ll sit out this next one as well—who knows, maybe I can avoid an ETOPS lock by summer?

I will say the ETOPS flying we did was really nice. Like a completely different airline. I did LAX for almost a year, and if I didn't live in Florida, I would have kept doing it. If you live in LAS/DEN/PHX I would consider it.

03-22-2023, 05:57 AM

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flyguy81

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Originally Posted by hoover

seriously! It's a topic of discussion at home almost daily.

If I can’t hold the next 2 bids I’m gonna pull it til the Oct bid. I got too much stuff being planned for July and Aug to spend my summer in DAL.

03-22-2023, 06:00 AM

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flyguy81

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Originally Posted by Crockrocket95

Living in base, I’m not interested in commuting for 6 mos when I can wait a month and hold my base. If and when DEN becomes ETOPS, I’ll bid it for sure.

03-23-2023, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyio

This really shouldn't even be a question. F9 will most likely have a faster upgrade, but whether you can get that faster upgrade in PHX is another question altogether, thats assuming F9 keeps PHX as a base long term. I see no reason why they wouldn't, but WN certainly isnt going anywhere in PHX so to me, that is an important consideration. Long term, you will make more at WN, have better schedule flexibility and more will go into your retirement. Not to mention the regular plan health insurance. Downside is the 737 is slightly less comfortable than the bus, but I wouldn't let that be a consideration.

I was not an F9 guy, but I did work for NK and I can assure you WN is better than NK even with our current issues. We should have a contract in the next year which will make this an even easier choice.

I love all the southwest guys and gals I run into and have some really close friends working there. Nothing but respect for the pilot group. It was on my short list for most of my career. I got hired at NK in 2015 and am a mid level (48% in my base/seat) captain in base. My very close buddy got hired the same year as me at southwest and is still an FO and his options are either remaining an FO in Florida or commuting to reserve in OAK as a captain or maybe getting an upgrade to the east coast to sit reserve as a commuter. So yeah on a peer to peer basis I’m not sure if it’s as cut and dry as you’re making it out to be. Again I’m sure I’d be happy at SW but things aren’t terrible at other places and some would argue that depending on when you got hired they may actually be better.

03-23-2023, 10:00 PM

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at6d

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There’s truth in your statement about it all depends when you get hired. Someone hired in either place today is in a very different position as someone hired 8 years ago.

03-26-2023, 02:52 AM

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Cyio

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Originally Posted by TrojanCMH

Yeah I certainly didnt mean to come off as NK being a bad place to work, in fact I often tell people about all the good things, however I still stand by my statement that it is better at WN by a lot, including QOL and schedule flexibility, healthcare etc. I think the poster above me is correct, as timing is everything. I was hired recently so perhaps if I was hired in 2015 I wouldn't feel the same way.