at6d

All you overlap experts: if you have an entire trip pulled, do you lose all of the pay?

Mozam

Yes Filler

Grumpyaviator

OTH, my overlap resulted in a five day trip. Hopefully the new contract will address that.

Proximity

I assume you know all the contractual ways out of that solution?

I'm super careful when bidding overlap!

e6bpilot

Self professed overlap expert here.

1. Read the contract. There is a whole section on it. If you know what you are doing, overlap can be very profitable for your pay or time off.
2. Don’t trust anyone here. Most of them have no idea what they are talking about (including me).
3. Anything pulled in the current bid period is paid. Anything in the next period is unpaid. If you get it pulled unpaid, you qualify for otp. You will get an email from SWAPA. Again, see the contract.
5. If you are ever unsure what the company will do and you are bidding overlap, just imagine the worst legal thing they can do and that’s usually it. Every now and then they will surprise you and pull something paid in the current month if their open time inventory is too high in overlap. If I wanted them to pull days, I would generally elitt into overlap days in the current month and then find the most untenable trip possible with conflicting schedules and overnights that are more than 500 or so miles away and bid that. I could pretty much count on dropping 2-3 days a month.
7. Good luck. It’s a fun game to play, but you have to take a L every now and again. It’s how you learn.

flyguy81

It currently does…call them and tell them to drop the Mar trip without pay. Then you qualify for OTP. Call them the day MOT opens when the pot is pretty empty and if nothing fits…they’ll give you a green bar to get you to guarantee. If something fits and you don’t want it…pick up something in TTGA or play the Open Time game.

Smooth at FL450

Yes. but you're eligible for OTP.

Proximity

Not that you need it. You want as little on your board as possible going into Spring Break.

MOT should be killed. The only time it was a "thing" was during Covid. Hopefully we never to there again.

Crockrocket95

Per the contract if you have 4 or more overnights as a result of overlap correction you can elect to drop the current months trip at no pay and keep the next months trip. Im pretty sure. Check the overlap section on the contract.

e6bpilot

MOT has its place in the grand scheme. It is a good tool for new hires to enrich themselves without having to bid DOT.