1,221 Reasons Not to work for Southwest
07-06-2023, 07:24 AM
#741
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2014
Posts: 171
Yep. As someone who has been here about twentyish years, I agree. And, in truth, it feels like my schedules now are worse than my first few years here.
So, my schedule as a junior FO about twenty years ago was, in many ways, better than my schedule today. Does it take about twenty years of BS at OAL’s to get to this same point I’m at now at SWA? Or could I do it in less time?
I guess I can thank the arrival of the 800’s combined with the effects of FAR 117 and SWAPA’s and the pilot group’s failure all this time to mitigate any of that for why that is the case.
I don’t know. Maybe if I were in my 20’s or 30’s and I’d come straight from a sh***y regional or some other cr***y gig, maybe SWA overall would be a step up and I’d have the energy and fresh outlook to Pollyanna-Ize the situation here. But I didn’t and I’m not, So, there you go.
A problem with so many people who don’t like it here leaving and so many sensible people not coming here to begin with is that we’re left with the crowd who’d rather eat the lemon by rationalizing how it’s not so bad compared to an Allegiant pilot or a ramper or a public school teacher and how “just a little hustle” evens it all out and how we make “plenty” or “enough” instead of making it into lemonade by holding out for a true ILC.
Yes, we will pass another lagging turd. Because we allegedly have better schedules than an Allegiant pilot, money doesn’t really matter that much (we make “enough,” remember?), all the other stuff is kind of ancillary and can be fixed “next time” anyway, and enough people who know better have left or aren’t here at all.
So, my schedule as a junior FO about twenty years ago was, in many ways, better than my schedule today. Does it take about twenty years of BS at OAL’s to get to this same point I’m at now at SWA? Or could I do it in less time?
I guess I can thank the arrival of the 800’s combined with the effects of FAR 117 and SWAPA’s and the pilot group’s failure all this time to mitigate any of that for why that is the case.
I don’t know. Maybe if I were in my 20’s or 30’s and I’d come straight from a sh***y regional or some other cr***y gig, maybe SWA overall would be a step up and I’d have the energy and fresh outlook to Pollyanna-Ize the situation here. But I didn’t and I’m not, So, there you go.
A problem with so many people who don’t like it here leaving and so many sensible people not coming here to begin with is that we’re left with the crowd who’d rather eat the lemon by rationalizing how it’s not so bad compared to an Allegiant pilot or a ramper or a public school teacher and how “just a little hustle” evens it all out and how we make “plenty” or “enough” instead of making it into lemonade by holding out for a true ILC.
Yes, we will pass another lagging turd. Because we allegedly have better schedules than an Allegiant pilot, money doesn’t really matter that much (we make “enough,” remember?), all the other stuff is kind of ancillary and can be fixed “next time” anyway, and enough people who know better have left or aren’t here at all.
07-06-2023, 07:25 AM
#742
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,026
Yep. As someone who has been here about twentyish years, I agree. And, in truth, it feels like my schedules now are worse than my first few years here.
So, my schedule as a junior FO about twenty years ago was, in many ways, better than my schedule today. Does it take about twenty years of BS at OAL’s to get to this same point I’m at now at SWA? Or could I do it in less time?
So, my schedule as a junior FO about twenty years ago was, in many ways, better than my schedule today. Does it take about twenty years of BS at OAL’s to get to this same point I’m at now at SWA? Or could I do it in less time?
I guess I can thank the arrival of the 800’s combined with the effects of FAR 117 and SWAPA’s and the pilot group’s failure all this time to mitigate any of that for why that is the case.
I don’t know. Maybe if I were in my 20’s or 30’s and I’d come straight from a sh***y regional or some other cr***y gig, maybe SWA overall would be a step up and I’d have the energy and fresh outlook to Pollyanna-Ize the situation here. But I didn’t and I’m not, So, there you go.
A problem with so many people who don’t like it here leaving and so many sensible people not coming here to begin with is that we’re left with the crowd who’d rather eat the lemon by rationalizing how it’s not so bad compared to an Allegiant pilot or a ramper or a public school teacher and how “just a little hustle” evens it all out and how we make “plenty” or “enough” instead of making it into lemonade by holding out for a true ILC.
Yes, we will pass another lagging turd. Because we allegedly have better schedules than an Allegiant pilot, money doesn’t really matter that much (we make “enough,” remember?), all the other stuff is kind of ancillary and can be fixed “next time” anyway, and enough people who know better have left or aren’t here at all.
Yes, we will pass another lagging turd. Because we allegedly have better schedules than an Allegiant pilot, money doesn’t really matter that much (we make “enough,” remember?), all the other stuff is kind of ancillary and can be fixed “next time” anyway, and enough people who know better have left or aren’t here at all.
07-06-2023, 11:23 AM
#743
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2017
Posts: 3,771
Yep. As someone who has been here about twentyish years, I agree. And, in truth, it feels like my schedules now are worse than my first few years here.
So, my schedule as a junior FO about twenty years ago was, in many ways, better than my schedule today. Does it take about twenty years of BS at OAL’s to get to this same point I’m at now at SWA? Or could I do it in less time?
I guess I can thank the arrival of the 800’s combined with the effects of FAR 117 and SWAPA’s and the pilot group’s failure all this time to mitigate any of that for why that is the case.
I don’t know. Maybe if I were in my 20’s or 30’s and I’d come straight from a sh***y regional or some other cr***y gig, maybe SWA overall would be a step up and I’d have the energy and fresh outlook to Pollyanna-Ize the situation here. But I didn’t and I’m not, So, there you go.
A problem with so many people who don’t like it here leaving and so many sensible people not coming here to begin with is that we’re left with the crowd who’d rather eat the lemon by rationalizing how it’s not so bad compared to an Allegiant pilot or a ramper or a public school teacher and how “just a little hustle” evens it all out and how we make “plenty” or “enough” instead of making it into lemonade by holding out for a true ILC.
Yes, we will pass another lagging turd. Because we allegedly have better schedules than an Allegiant pilot, money doesn’t really matter that much (we make “enough,” remember?), all the other stuff is kind of ancillary and can be fixed “next time” anyway, and enough people who know better have left or aren’t here at all.
So, my schedule as a junior FO about twenty years ago was, in many ways, better than my schedule today. Does it take about twenty years of BS at OAL’s to get to this same point I’m at now at SWA? Or could I do it in less time?
I guess I can thank the arrival of the 800’s combined with the effects of FAR 117 and SWAPA’s and the pilot group’s failure all this time to mitigate any of that for why that is the case.
I don’t know. Maybe if I were in my 20’s or 30’s and I’d come straight from a sh***y regional or some other cr***y gig, maybe SWA overall would be a step up and I’d have the energy and fresh outlook to Pollyanna-Ize the situation here. But I didn’t and I’m not, So, there you go.
A problem with so many people who don’t like it here leaving and so many sensible people not coming here to begin with is that we’re left with the crowd who’d rather eat the lemon by rationalizing how it’s not so bad compared to an Allegiant pilot or a ramper or a public school teacher and how “just a little hustle” evens it all out and how we make “plenty” or “enough” instead of making it into lemonade by holding out for a true ILC.
Yes, we will pass another lagging turd. Because we allegedly have better schedules than an Allegiant pilot, money doesn’t really matter that much (we make “enough,” remember?), all the other stuff is kind of ancillary and can be fixed “next time” anyway, and enough people who know better have left or aren’t here at all.
Things do need to change here and in a hurry. Someone like myself who sadly is just starting at a major in my mid 40’s doesn’t have a lot of time to screw around.
Time will tell.
07-06-2023, 11:42 AM
#745
Strike averted!
Joined APC: Mar 2015
Position: B737
Posts: 3,781
07-06-2023, 11:44 AM
#746
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jun 2018
Position: Gear slinging SOB
Posts: 42
Sadly today I updated my apps. Not sure if anything will pop and even if it does not sure I will take it, but I did update and hit submit.
Things do need to change here and in a hurry. Someone like myself who sadly is just starting at a major in my mid 40’s doesn’t have a lot of time to screw around.
Time will tell.
Things do need to change here and in a hurry. Someone like myself who sadly is just starting at a major in my mid 40’s doesn’t have a lot of time to screw around.
Time will tell.
07-06-2023, 11:59 AM
#747
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2017
Position: 737 FO
Posts: 988
Sadly today I updated my apps. Not sure if anything will pop and even if it does not sure I will take it, but I did update and hit submit.
Things do need to change here and in a hurry. Someone like myself who sadly is just starting at a major in my mid 40’s doesn’t have a lot of time to screw around.
Time will tell.
Things do need to change here and in a hurry. Someone like myself who sadly is just starting at a major in my mid 40’s doesn’t have a lot of time to screw around.
Time will tell.
07-06-2023, 01:57 PM
#748
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2006
Position: American Airlines Brake Pad Replacement Technician
Posts: 476
The koolaiders will be by shortly to tell how right they are for thier own personal career decision to stay at SWA.
Ignore.
Life is short. Tomorrow is promised to nobody.
Tailwinds and best of luck to those making that choice to move on. Im envious.
Ignore.
Life is short. Tomorrow is promised to nobody.
Tailwinds and best of luck to those making that choice to move on. Im envious.
07-06-2023, 02:18 PM
#749
Strike averted!
Joined APC: Mar 2015
Position: B737
Posts: 3,781
So basically a personal choice to stay for whatever reason constitutes a koolaid drinker?
Im ready to strike.
07-06-2023, 02:30 PM
#750
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2006
Position: American Airlines Brake Pad Replacement Technician
Posts: 476
I'm too scared, envious of the courage. Maybe i can muster it up someday as trends darken. With you on the RLA path.
Everyone has there reasons, I respect that.
Just bracing for the 10 tfp a day it's easy guys to pile in, snd how it's great to work more for less, to bash those moving on.
I appluad those that are engaged, and those with the courage to move it on down the line as well.
Everyone has there reasons, I respect that.
Just bracing for the 10 tfp a day it's easy guys to pile in, snd how it's great to work more for less, to bash those moving on.
I appluad those that are engaged, and those with the courage to move it on down the line as well.
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