1,221 Reasons Not to work for Southwest
04-20-2023, 07:12 AM
#411
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And duty days over ten hours or overnights less than 14 hours.
And tail changes.
And duty periods with more than three legs.
04-20-2023, 11:52 AM
#412
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Trip changed? First day pays +50% any time you’re off your published trip. After the first layover, it’s +100%. Again, it’s on top of any and all other pay and reserve guarantee.
Trip changes + long duty day turns into a lot of money quickly.
04-20-2023, 12:04 PM
#413
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Delta gets 1:1 pay for everything over 10 hours duty, and that’s above any and all other kinds of pay. For reserves it’s above their guarantee. Scheduled or unscheduled.
Trip changed? First day pays +50% any time you’re off your published trip. After the first layover, it’s +100%. Again, it’s on top of any and all other pay and reserve guarantee.
Trip changes + long duty day turns into a lot of money quickly.
Trip changed? First day pays +50% any time you’re off your published trip. After the first layover, it’s +100%. Again, it’s on top of any and all other pay and reserve guarantee.
Trip changes + long duty day turns into a lot of money quickly.
That also doesn’t count the fact that Delta will additionally contribute more than 100% more than SWA to each pilot’s retirement account during their first eight years. And it also doesn’t count the fact that Delta’s profit sharing is pensionable while SWA’s isn’t.
04-22-2023, 01:14 PM
#415
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Joined APC: Apr 2022
Posts: 239
More Reasons not to work for Southwest:
“Labor Relations refuses to AIP provisions in new, modern, cleaned up language. They want to cling to weak, vague, and conflicting language in order to keep “flexibility” at the expense of our Pilots.”
“This is the way we’ve always done it,” it will require a “Tech Touch” and “Fly it like a -200 mentality.” We can’t do Auto-land, have a “dive to the dirt” philosophy by setting Zeros in the ATL MCP window, can’t operate in WATRS airspace ***Note: WATRS RNP10 airspace one of the easiest OpsSpecs to obtain.
Choose your career wisely!
“Labor Relations refuses to AIP provisions in new, modern, cleaned up language. They want to cling to weak, vague, and conflicting language in order to keep “flexibility” at the expense of our Pilots.”
“This is the way we’ve always done it,” it will require a “Tech Touch” and “Fly it like a -200 mentality.” We can’t do Auto-land, have a “dive to the dirt” philosophy by setting Zeros in the ATL MCP window, can’t operate in WATRS airspace ***Note: WATRS RNP10 airspace one of the easiest OpsSpecs to obtain.
Choose your career wisely!
04-22-2023, 06:48 PM
#416
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Joined APC: Jun 2010
Position: DOWNGRADE COMPLETE: Thanks Gary. Thanks SWAPA.
Posts: 6,783
More Reasons not to work for Southwest:
“Labor Relations refuses to AIP provisions in new, modern, cleaned up language. They want to cling to weak, vague, and conflicting language in order to keep “flexibility” at the expense of our Pilots.”
“This is the way we’ve always done it,” it will require a “Tech Touch” and “Fly it like a -200 mentality.” We can’t do Auto-land, have a “dive to the dirt” philosophy by setting Zeros in the ATL MCP window, can’t operate in WATRS airspace ***Note: WATRS RNP10 airspace one of the easiest OpsSpecs to obtain.
Choose your career wisely!
“Labor Relations refuses to AIP provisions in new, modern, cleaned up language. They want to cling to weak, vague, and conflicting language in order to keep “flexibility” at the expense of our Pilots.”
“This is the way we’ve always done it,” it will require a “Tech Touch” and “Fly it like a -200 mentality.” We can’t do Auto-land, have a “dive to the dirt” philosophy by setting Zeros in the ATL MCP window, can’t operate in WATRS airspace ***Note: WATRS RNP10 airspace one of the easiest OpsSpecs to obtain.
Choose your career wisely!
04-23-2023, 09:19 AM
#418
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Joined APC: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,026
Typical SW. You guys had been successfully DOING this flying for years, and instead of sticking with what works, they decide to reinvent the wheel, and it was rectangular.
About 1/4 of the way through that class, I decided that I was just not gonna do any of that flying. Since it was the 25th, I spent the rest of that class on ELITT, which was a far more productive use of my time.
04-23-2023, 09:22 AM
#419
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Joined APC: Jun 2010
Position: DOWNGRADE COMPLETE: Thanks Gary. Thanks SWAPA.
Posts: 6,783
I miss it but then again, the overland domestic stuff is boring the hell out of me. To each their own.
04-24-2023, 09:12 AM
#420
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Joined APC: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,026
Any thrill I'd derived from our domestic flying has been gone for at least 25 years. With the ever eroding schedule quality (which I never thought was even remotely possible), not to mention hotel/transportation issues, I have been doing more turns lately to limit my exposure to dealing with that nonsense.
5/20
Is it too late for VSP?
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