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Old 02-24-2023, 06:52 PM
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Just saw the latest negotiations update. I have a hard time seeing how this is going to end as a win for the company? I get it's standard negotiating from the company, but it's like there is no vision of a future here. Maybe bojo is going for a Pyrrhic victory.
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Old 02-24-2023, 07:25 PM
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Personally, I think the company is trying to call our SAV 'bluff.' That's why I think it's all the more important to vote yes on SAV and tell them where we stand with one voice so they can see as plain as day that we aren't bluffing.

I don't see any progress on the horizon until the company gets hit with a strong SAV yes vote, and the mediator threatens them with declaring an impasse releasing us to the first 30-day cooling off period.
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Old 02-24-2023, 08:22 PM
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The vote can't start soon enough. I want SWAPA to keep moving down the road to release, not because it's what I want, but because it's the only thing they understand.
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THIS ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Old 02-24-2023, 09:51 PM
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I’m guessing the upcoming Delta vote will spur some movement.
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Old 02-24-2023, 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
Personally, I think the company is trying to call our SAV 'bluff.' That's why I think it's all the more important to vote yes on SAV and tell them where we stand with one voice so they can see as plain as day that we aren't bluffing.

I don't see any progress on the horizon until the company gets hit with a strong SAV yes vote, and the mediator threatens them with declaring an impasse releasing us to the first 30-day cooling off period.
Bingo. I’ve been down this path before multiple times and all indications are that this is gonna need to get rather contentious if we are to get the contract we’re seeking.

The good news is that IF we stick together, the amount of leverage we yield is insane.
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Old 02-25-2023, 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
The good news is that IF we stick together, the amount of leverage we yield is insane.
You new here? This group can’t even get on the same page as to which tie to wear or whether to wear a lanyard.
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You new here? This group can’t even get on the same page as to which tie to wear or whether to wear a lanyard.
Yup. Most pathetic group of yessies in the industry. Hence the lagging contracts.
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Old 02-25-2023, 05:04 AM
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Unfortunately, I’m going to have to agree with the last two posts. One can fantasize can’t I?

The sad part is that an industry LEADING contract is very attainable with unity. Alas, you’re both right.
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
You new here? This group can’t even get on the same page as to which tie to wear or whether to wear a lanyard.
Exactly.

This pilot group loves shooting itself in it's collective foot. Over and over again.

Most folks can't seem to grasp that when you vote YES! to ratify industry lagging contracts, you GET industry lagging contracts.

Or maybe most folks here just enjoy working harder for less?

Yeah, I know...... This time is "different".

Again.....

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