1,221 Reasons Not to work for Southwest
12-06-2023, 02:37 AM
#1832
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2015
Posts: 1,153
You guys are crying over spilled milk. Did anyone get furlouged? Whats going to happen if the the economy goes bust, or we have another terror attack similar to 9/11. You guys are all emotional about a letter. WOW! I would be more concerned that the company was falling marching orders from the US goverement and was willing to fire over the half the pilots if they did not get the prick and were was the union on that? Oh, they were Pro Choice they claim. That is a big laugh.
12-06-2023, 02:56 AM
#1833
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Joined APC: Jan 2016
Position: Left
Posts: 1,254
He (5 tools) is the same Ass hat that is saying the 300 pilots that have left this year includes all the retirements . Another HQ pickleball idiot .
12-06-2023, 03:57 AM
#1834
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Joined APC: Nov 2012
Posts: 2,030
12-06-2023, 04:48 AM
#1835
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Joined APC: Dec 2023
Posts: 519
12-06-2023, 04:50 AM
#1836
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Joined APC: Dec 2023
Posts: 519
Can you add. Even from SWAPA's own list on their forum it does not add up to the number claimed that left, unless you add in retirements then they add up. So do we have mystery pilots leaving now.
12-06-2023, 05:14 AM
#1837
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Joined APC: Apr 2013
Posts: 3,651
Now they are over here trolling. Just ignore them.
12-06-2023, 05:22 AM
#1838
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Joined APC: Dec 2023
Posts: 519
So asking if anyone actually got fourlouged is hurting your feelings? Wow. You sound like a particular MCO rep?
12-06-2023, 05:41 AM
#1839
Furloughed Again?!
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: Boeing 737
Posts: 4,804
Does that make it right? No.
The WARN act (Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notice) requires 60 days notice of a furlough. WN sent those out 5 MONTHS in advance of their proposed furlough date, and more egregiously, just a few weeks before Christmas. This resulted in thousands of pilots cutting back on Christmas spending, and beginning the process of budgeting for a furlough. Basically, the company was the Grinch that Stole Christmas. Not only for those threatened by furlough, but also Captains who would be downgraded to FO.
Nobody questions the fact that if the level of business remained as it was during the height of the pandemic the company would have needed to reduce headcount. But sending those letters before the busiest travel days of the year was unnecessarily provocative, cruel, and heartless.
They took a corporate culture that took five decades to build and tossed it in the trash to cultivate an atmosphere of fear, uncertainty, and doubt.
Now they reap what they have sewn. It’s going to be a whole lot tougher to rebuild what they’ve lost. It will take inspirational leadership and years of respect from management indicated by fewer grievances, fewer payroll errors, fewer JAs, and a product we can believe in.
So instead of harassing us, they have some work to do. They have to figure out a way to make the front line employees look at the company the same way that the headquarters employees do. That’s going to be tough, because we don’t have anywhere to put a pickleball court or host a deck party on the airplane.
12-06-2023, 05:52 AM
#1840
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Joined APC: Dec 2023
Posts: 519
ugh gimme a break. Could say the same about the guys over on the TOF whining about the vaccine mandate. Did you actually get fired? No.
Does that make it right? No.
The WARN act (Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notice) requires 60 days notice of a furlough. WN sent those out 5 MONTHS in advance of their proposed furlough date, and more egregiously, just a few weeks before Christmas. This resulted in thousands of pilots cutting back on Christmas spending, and beginning the process of budgeting for a furlough. Basically, the company was the Grinch that Stole Christmas. Not only for those threatened by furlough, but also Captains who would be downgraded to FO.
Nobody questions the fact that if the level of business remained as it was during the height of the pandemic the company would have needed to reduce headcount. But sending those letters before the busiest travel days of the year was unnecessarily provocative, cruel, and heartless.
They took a corporate culture that took five decades to build and tossed it in the trash to cultivate an atmosphere of fear, uncertainty, and doubt.
Now they reap what they have sewn. It’s going to be a whole lot tougher to rebuild what they’ve lost. It will take inspirational leadership and years of respect from management indicated by fewer grievances, fewer payroll errors, fewer JAs, and a product we can believe in.
So instead of harassing us, they have some work to do. They have to figure out a way to make the front line employees look at the company the same way that the headquarters employees do. That’s going to be tough, because we don’t have anywhere to put a pickleball court or host a deck party on the airplane.
Does that make it right? No.
The WARN act (Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notice) requires 60 days notice of a furlough. WN sent those out 5 MONTHS in advance of their proposed furlough date, and more egregiously, just a few weeks before Christmas. This resulted in thousands of pilots cutting back on Christmas spending, and beginning the process of budgeting for a furlough. Basically, the company was the Grinch that Stole Christmas. Not only for those threatened by furlough, but also Captains who would be downgraded to FO.
Nobody questions the fact that if the level of business remained as it was during the height of the pandemic the company would have needed to reduce headcount. But sending those letters before the busiest travel days of the year was unnecessarily provocative, cruel, and heartless.
They took a corporate culture that took five decades to build and tossed it in the trash to cultivate an atmosphere of fear, uncertainty, and doubt.
Now they reap what they have sewn. It’s going to be a whole lot tougher to rebuild what they’ve lost. It will take inspirational leadership and years of respect from management indicated by fewer grievances, fewer payroll errors, fewer JAs, and a product we can believe in.
So instead of harassing us, they have some work to do. They have to figure out a way to make the front line employees look at the company the same way that the headquarters employees do. That’s going to be tough, because we don’t have anywhere to put a pickleball court or host a deck party on the airplane.
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