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Old 11-23-2023, 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
. They suggested writing up the sh!tbirds, and also said that an IR coming from the captain about this carries far more weight than it does from another FA. FWIW....

Very bad advice. Anyone doing so will find out how fast the tide can turn. The pilot doing the write up will be in front of HR trying to save their job due to some fabricated story after the fact .


I would only give this advice to someone I want to see get terminated.
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Old 11-23-2023, 06:17 AM
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Very bad advice. Anyone doing so will find out how fast the tide can turn. The pilot doing the write up will be in front of HR trying to save their job due to some fabricated story after the fact .


I would only give this advice to someone I want to see get terminated.
Agreed. I won't do any extra paperwork or reporting beyond what's mandatory, or to protect my ticket.

I think ghost riders are the way to solve the sh!tbird problem.
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Old 11-23-2023, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
Agreed. I won't do any extra paperwork or reporting beyond what's mandatory, or to protect my ticket.

I think ghost riders are the way to solve the sh!tbird problem.

Happy thanksgiving to you and the others on here .
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Old 11-23-2023, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Mozam
Happy thanksgiving to you and the others on here .
Happy Thanksgiving!
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Old 11-23-2023, 06:46 AM
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Thank you same to you Mozam. Happy Thanksgiving everyone!
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Old 11-23-2023, 07:57 AM
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Zero chance I’m going to get involved in a write up war with the FAs.

Customer service is a company problem. Let the 2023 Regional Pickelball champs deal with it. I’m not going to attempt to single handedly save the airline.
Yup! Let the company ghost ride more flights. I give them the info to do their jobs. What they do with it is their choice.
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Old 11-23-2023, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
Zero chance I’m going to get involved in a write up war with the FAs.

Customer service is a company problem. Let the 2023 Regional Pickelball champs deal with it. I’m not going to attempt to single handedly save the airline.
This all day. I am not letting their write up culture creep into the cockpit. I only do IRs when I get an email telling me to do one. Dallas is so clueless and set in their ways, I am afraid it is going to take an activist investor to go to war with the board in order to clean things up. When my "leadership" class addressed the pre board problem and maybe suggested some form of assigned seating, we were met with surprise, scorn, and disbelief.
They have built a fortress of yes people around them who want to keep moving up the ladder by not rocking the boat. If they want to fix the FA problem, that's on them. They need to come out of their hidey hole and do it. I will do my best to change my .1 percent, but I am not sticking my head up to solve their problems, that's how you get it lopped off.
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Old 11-23-2023, 12:17 PM
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Don’t forget that when we do recurrent and meet with FAs, we ONLY meet Dallas FAs. They all do recurrent in their own domicile. The words there don’t all make it outside the mothership.
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Old 11-23-2023, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
It was such a breath of fresh air flying with a 4 digit flight attendant who was total old school and she ran a tight ship in the back... no drama, no fuss, no BS. They served through light chop. I asked them on the ground between flights how it was, and the entire crew went on a rant about sh!tbird flight attendants who look for every excuse to not serve.
May I just say.... as a flight attendant with almost 30 years of service with this Company.... I apprecate you acknowedging the fact that there ARE some of us out there trying to do the job we were hired for when Herb was around.

I mean that sincerely.

Despite my seniority, being based in Dallas, i am often the most junior flight attendant on Tue/Wed/Thu AM trips and I still consider it a prividelge to fly with flight attendants who have been here for 40 or even 50 years.

So, thank You for acknowedging that not all of us are trying to avoid work.

I will say... when I have the occaission to fly in the D position and fly with much junior crew members from other bases... the work ethic is, often, much different.

For example, I recently flew as the D flight attendant on a trip that included a MDW-GRR-MDW turn. My junior crew members (all 100,000+ employee numbers) insisted that there was no way we could possibly complete a water service on that leg (MDW-GRR is one of the few routes that the Company allows water only). The weather was fine and I was almost embarassed at how they seemed to almost beg the Captain to determine the flight was either too short or was going to be too bumpy to even do the minimal water service. A WATER SERVICE?

Sure enough, we had more than enough to do the quick water service.

My point, and I again thank RJSAvaiator76 for addressing it, is that there are some of us out there who have been here long enough to know what is expected of us and who know what job we were hired for.

I am not posting this to get praise for doing my job... not at all.... I am posting this in the hopes that you do not lump all flight attendants into the same category.

Any by the way... Happy Thanksgiving to all of you.
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Old 11-23-2023, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by SWAFA
May I just say.... as a flight attendant with almost 30 years of service with this Company.... I apprecate you acknowedging the fact that there ARE some of us out there trying to do the job we were hired for when Herb was around.

I mean that sincerely.

Despite my seniority, being based in Dallas, i am often the most junior flight attendant on Tue/Wed/Thu AM trips and I still consider it a prividelge to fly with flight attendants who have been here for 40 or even 50 years.

So, thank You for acknowedging that not all of us are trying to avoid work.

I will say... when I have the occaission to fly in the D position and fly with much junior crew members from other bases... the work ethic is, often, much different.

For example, I recently flew as the D flight attendant on a trip that included a MDW-GRR-MDW turn. My junior crew members (all 100,000+ employee numbers) insisted that there was no way we could possibly complete a water service on that leg (MDW-GRR is one of the few routes that the Company allows water only). The weather was fine and I was almost embarassed at how they seemed to almost beg the Captain to determine the flight was either too short or was going to be too bumpy to even do the minimal water service. A WATER SERVICE?

Sure enough, we had more than enough to do the quick water service.

My point, and I again thank RJSAvaiator76 for addressing it, is that there are some of us out there who have been here long enough to know what is expected of us and who know what job we were hired for.

I am not posting this to get praise for doing my job... not at all.... I am posting this in the hopes that you do not lump all flight attendants into the same category.

Any by the way... Happy Thanksgiving to all of you.
It’s always a pleasure to fly with the likes of you. Happy Thanksgiving, and I hope we will fly together one day.
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